New Charity shop for Shaw Trust opp Wickes

Feed The Goat

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"Jade, thank you for your comments, I'm sorry that on the day you visited your expectations were not met. We do rely on donations so our stock changes daily, I do hope you will give the shop another chance and we'll do our best to make your shopping experience a more pleasurable one."


God I hate these cut a paste apologies, give me an argument any day...........far more entertaining.
 

Mikinton

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"Jade, thank you for your comments, I'm sorry that on the day you visited your expectations were not met. We do rely on donations so our stock changes daily, I do hope you will give the shop another chance and we'll do our best to make your shopping experience a more pleasurable one."


God I hate these cut a paste apologies, give me an argument any day...........far more entertaining.

A five minute argument or the full half hour?
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
It really pees me off when people smoke right by the entrance/exit to a building. It looks unprofessional, a lot of people would not want to have to walk through someone's cigarette smoke to enter and for people with asthma, for example, it could literally be uncomfortable to do so. The fact that people have said she does not move out of the way seems to suggest she is at least partially blocking the exit, which is a fire safety hazard putting everyone in there at risk.
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
All I can say is I'm glad I asked to go to Pertemps (purely on the basis of it being easier to get to on the bus) - they are all pretty cool there, would defo recommend to anyone being put on the Work Programme (whether ESA WRAG like me or JSA).

Although apparently the lift is a bit dodgy and it's based on the first floor so might not be so great if you can't do stairs and you don't like enclosed spaces.
 

Jade-clothing

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It really pees me off when people smoke right by the entrance/exit to a building. It looks unprofessional, a lot of people would not want to have to walk through someone's cigarette smoke to enter and for people with asthma, for example, it could literally be uncomfortable to do so. The fact that people have said she does not move out of the way seems to suggest she is at least partially blocking the exit, which is a fire safety hazard putting everyone in there at risk.


The smell also drifts into the shop, which is surely not very good when it is also a cafe. Anyway I've never been back - first impressions mean a lot in business and I found it really unprofessional.
 

Alan B'Stard

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I cannot speak for the Shaw Trust as a whole, but the guys who work in the Stafford Shaw trust ability to work building are awesome, they are so nice and they are always next door, in the charity shop having a coffee with their customers. If the customers need anything there is a man who helps them out, like paying for hair cuts and new glasses, you know that sort of thing, he doesn't have to. I hope you take this into consideration, as the charity shops earnings go to the work programme and directly help the customers. Also they are always fighting for the people they are helping, and treat them extremely well.

Holly, you need to find a copy of Benefit Busters to see what the front line activity funds. I'm sure your manager will have it and if they don't, ask them why not?

Shaw Trust have become a lesser known ATOS.
 

kyoto49

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I know there was some disgruntlement with this place and smokey manager lady, but I donated loads of stuff today and things see to have improved somewhat. The asst manager is a lovely lady. Atmosphere was very welcoming and lots of special needs people helped carry boxes so they are clearly helping people. Good to see to be honest
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
I know there was some disgruntlement with this place and smokey manager lady, but I donated loads of stuff today and things see to have improved somewhat. The asst manager is a lovely lady. Atmosphere was very welcoming and lots of special needs people helped carry boxes so they are clearly helping people. Good to see to be honest
Helping people by giving them jobs or helping them by exploiting them for free labour? Just wondering.
 

Floss

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It really pees me off when people smoke right by the entrance/exit to a building. It looks unprofessional, a lot of people would not want to have to walk through someone's cigarette smoke to enter and for people with asthma, for example, it could literally be uncomfortable to do so. The fact that people have said she does not move out of the way seems to suggest she is at least partially blocking the exit, which is a fire safety hazard putting everyone in there at risk.


smoking then serving food ...no thanks !
 

kyoto49

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smoking then serving food ...no thanks !

Pretty sure the smoking dragon has moved on. Certainly no sight of her the last 2 times I've visited, which has seen helpful, apparantly non-smoking staff! If they smoke, they weren't outside when I visited!!
 

kyoto49

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Helping people by giving them jobs or helping them by exploiting them for free labour? Just wondering.

I have not enough knowledge of their situation to comment. However, I didn't get the impression the special needs people I saw would be very suitable for mainstream employment.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Helping people by giving them jobs or helping them by exploiting them for free labour? Just wondering.

I have not enough knowledge of their situation to comment. However, I didn't get the impression the special needs people I saw would be very suitable for mainstream employment.

Everybody, not matter there abilities, is better off doing something rather than nothing.
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
Everybody, not matter there abilities, is better off doing something rather than nothing.
I think the something of paid employment is generally the preferred option to the something of doing free labour because you're pretty much locked out of employment because we live in an ableist society.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
I think the something of paid employment is generally the preferred option to the something of doing free labour because you're pretty much locked out of employment because we live in an ableist society.
Quite agree with you. But should paid employment not be available it's always better for peoples state of mind to keep busy.
 

kyoto49

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I think the something of paid employment is generally the preferred option to the something of doing free labour because you're pretty much locked out of employment because we live in an ableist society.

Maybe, but I'd rather see people working for nothing and getting some sort of transferable skills and sense of self-worth than languishing at home because they have absolutely no work related skills. I did my Uni work placement free for a year as it was the only way I could get a foot on the ladder. The company who gave me the chance then took me on and I have a very good career because I was prepared to do something for nothing!
 

Mikinton

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Quite agree with you. But should paid employment not be available it's always better for peoples state of mind to keep busy.
Not just that.

Regular employment, paid or not, shows you have the self discipline to get yourself into work every morning. As someone who is now retired and no longer has this attribute, I recognise and appreciate it.
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
Quite agree with you. But should paid employment not be available it's always better for peoples state of mind to keep busy.
Not if they're not getting the help they need to get a job. I've done admin voluntary work for 3 different organisations, including the current one. I've only ever had one admin job that was paid - it was a government scheme to get me off unemployment statistics for 6 months (over 5 years ago now). I need the stability of employment (even though it would have to be part time and I would still rely on benefits to meet living costs to some extent).
 
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