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Rugby Club progress...

Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by Gareth, Feb 15, 2016.

  1. Sky

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    Hi Guys - interesting chat, so here goes my first post on this forum: The circle of the club..... they get new ground (a long time ago!), much later the land owner wants to sell it to develop houses (and to make lots of money?), he cant get rid of the club because of the 30+ years left on the lease so, he offers the club a piece of land that he cant sell for houses? (do you not think he would have if he could have!), the club are left in limbo - take the land/don't take the land, they take the land get planning permission and.... they get the new ground, 60 years later they need a new ground as the site is under water (the reason why it couldn't be sold for houses).......... do they get a new ground?????
     
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    Hi Guys - interesting chat, so here goes my first post on this forum: The circle of the club..... they get new ground (a long time ago!), much later the land owner wants to sell it to develop houses (and to make lots of money?), he cant get rid of the club because of the 30+ years left on the lease so, he offers the club a piece of land that he cant sell for houses? (do you not think he would have if he could have!), the club are left in limbo - take the land/don't take the land, they take the land get planning permission and.... they get the new ground, 60 years later they need a new ground as the site is under water (the reason why it couldn't be sold for houses).......... do they get a new ground?????
     
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  4. 1JKz

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    This thread sure is attracting the newbies!

    ...as you were
     
  5. Jonah

    Jonah Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk

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    The only person to appear to 'win' out of this is Lord Stafford.

    Lord Stafford appears to be forcing the Rugby Club move to a different site, who then become hated by a lot of people in the town, Lord Stafford then sells the current rugby club premises to house builders for a big fat wedge of cash. SBC get houses to fit the current plan but also get lots criticism due to approving the Rugby Club moving a sensitive site.

    Losers = people living near the new club location, SBC because of the criticism and people of Stafford because Doxey Marshes may* be impacted.
    Winner = Lord Stafford.



    *used the word 'may' as I haven't read ANY of the associated documents to do with the case at all so cannot say 'will' with any certainty.
     
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  6. Gramaisc

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    To be fair to his Lordship, I don't think he is "forcing" the Club to move.

    Do they not have a lease with thirty, or so, years left to run where they are?

    Or am I misunderstanding the situation?
     
  7. Jonah

    Jonah Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk

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    @Gramaisc Reading between the lines, it appears the club may be having pressure applied to move sooner rather than later.
     
  8. Gramaisc

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    Indeed, but they could just stay there.

    "Induced", rather than "forced", perhaps?
     
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  9. Jonah

    Jonah Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk

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    I've edited that post since you quoted me :) @Gramaisc
     
  10. Gramaisc

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    I wouldn't worry too much - I just didn't want his Lordship's reputation to be blackened.
     
  11. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    Beaconside has 1 year left, that means they can spend 30 years organising the move there without issue?
     
  12. Jonah

    Jonah Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk

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    But Beaconside is being sold so there is no guarantee there will be any form of sport there after next year.
     
  13. tek-monkey

    tek-monkey wanna see my snake?

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    If they sold it to the rugby club there would? The only reason not to is that they'd have to pay, which I can't see being a legal reason to exclude the site from alternative options?
     
  14. Jonah

    Jonah Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk

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    I suppose that sale would depend on the new owners. I could see Beaconside being mothballed and then sold for housing.
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    Heaven forbid. He's an absolute Pillock of the Community.
     
  16. Gramaisc

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    I expect to be unimpressed by what happens - but, I would like to be wrong.
     
  17. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    How can Beaconside get any worse?

    First it was our land and then it was GIFTED to the Poly. Then the Poly were allowed to sell it and make a PROFIT for themselves.

    SBC/Poly 1 - 0 Ratepayers

    As is always the case, the people get shafted by their elected Cuntcillors.
     
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  18. Gramaisc

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    "Better" people than us will be working hard at this.
     
  19. proactive

    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    No shortage of them in Stafford.
     
  20. gilbert grape

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    All this has further reaching impacts than the green space and wildlife.
    That is the immediate effect, as is the impact on the immediate residential area. I also predict that on a Sunday when all the teams are playing that all the extra cars will try and park in Castletown as there is no permit control on Sundays. A free for all and more frustration! Other factors would be that they are moving onto floodable land and that puts the rugby club itself at risk. I even wrote that in my objection that I submitted.
     
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