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tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
Yeah, I ran through castletown on the Sunday and there was flooding either side of the bridge as well as the doxey road. Then the bridges on the isobel trail too, completely messed up my route!
Glam
Mad Cat Woman
Try living here, Water water everywhere, and not a drop to drink............
But at least the nice new Rugby club wasn't flooded. A?
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
This is entirely immaterial - it could have been Hobson's choice and still have been the wrong one.
You live upon the death of a promise.
Withnail
Well-Known Forumite
emphasis mine
I like this.
Do you remember when Sir Clive Woodward was a proponent of marginal gains?
We do 100 things @ 1% better?
You remember that, yes?
Do you think that if you do 100 things 1% worse, things might be 100% shitter?
SC1988
A few posts under my belt
It'd be nice if that was the case though wasn't it? We could just dig a big hole and never have any floods again!
Yes I remember the marginal gains. Things are all good at the rugby club thank you. You may not agree with the location but it’s not going anywhere, so we plan to make the best of it
Thehooperman
Well-Known Forumite
I'm sure that sort of attitude will get the customers "flooding" in.
Good luck with your self-centred/blinkered view of the world. I hope you don't "sink" without trace.
As much as I like watching rugby occasionally I will not be frequenting a venue that puts profit over maintaining habitat or the local ecology.
It’s not self centred or blinkered, it’s common sense, some people don’t like the location - there is absolutely nothing we can do about it, so let’s crack on.
What am I supposed to do? Close the club because the odd individual doesn’t like it?
PeterD
ST16 Represent.
The odd individual? you must remember the huge number of people that opposed it before ground had been broken.
There were a lot more people for it than against
Tilly
Well-Known Forumite
Have a look on the planning portal - objections 102, supporting 222......my maths is pretty limited but with extra paper I’ve worked out that is 120 more people for than against
PeterD
ST16 Represent.
I am trying to fathom why you are contributing to this and trolling the Save Doxey Marshes page on Facebook. You are aware its happened, you know why people objected, but still you continue to kick people. Why is that? Are these pages turning up in searches and this is a half hearted attempt at PR. Why did the rugby club not care about wildlife concerns, why at the time did you not care. Why wasn't a more suitable site sought?
Peter, I have kicked no one. I thought a forum was somewhere views are exchanged, discussed? Because my views differ from the majority of people on here, does that mean I can’t contribute?
My posts I believe have been polite, objective and based on facts.
I feel strongly about the rugby club, and when I see comments that I believe are wrong, I’m within my to object.
The rugby club was and still is concerned about wildlife, for example, we moved pitches and removed car parking spaces to stay away from badger sets.
I am yet to hear one single response to the question, what should the rugby club have done? Decreasing lease, poor facilities - if we had declined the offer of a new home, the club in time would have ceased to exist.
I get that some people don’t like the location but what do you suggest we do?
And all along it was not our decision to make, so not simple at all.
Of course I want to save Doxey Marshes, who wouldn’t.
Pooryorick
Well-Known Forumite
Not too difficult for a club to drum up a couple of hundred supporters, I'd imagine.
Speaking of maths, have you worked out how much the project cost the taxpayer yet?
The Hawk
Well-Known Forumite
I am glad that you are contributing and I hope that everyone who responds to you does so appropriately. Yes, your views do differ from many on here, but that certainly does not mean that you aren't entitled to hold them.
You will have already got a flavour of the reasons why many individuals objected to the location of the new rugby club; indeed, when an organisation (the RSPB) with over a million members objects, alarm bells should start ringing. It was certainly not a vendetta against the rugby club, merely people trying to protect one of the most important wildlife habitats in the UK, which attract visitors from across the UK and even beyond. And that's without considering the flood implications for the rest of the town (due to water displacement).
I think the answer, to what should the rugby club have done, has been made above, it should have pushed for an alternative location; it would have received a lot of support if it had gone down that route; don't forget moving the club from its old location was an important piece of a massive development jigsaw. A way would have been found to find an alternative location.
However, we are where we are and we all need to try and move forwards. You do come across as someone having an interest in the local wildlife and you do need to take that forward. At the very least I would expect the rugby club to engage with Staffordshire Wildlife Trust, to see what can be done to mitigate the impact of the rugby club as much as possible. I would also hope that some sort of partnership arrangement could be developed, to the benefit of all.
In moving to your new location, you don't have to accept that you were wrong. However, you do need to accept that many other people thought you were wrong and look to ways of rebuilding relationships.