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Scooter Trail!!

Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by Wormella, Sep 16, 2020.

  1. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    The person involved is not British and is not used to the levels of petty, worthless, futile bureaucracy that exist here.
     
  2. Withnail

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    Stafford isn't big enough for a scheme like this to be anything other than an experiment, so we need to first ask, an experiment to answer what?

    Whether 'Ginger' will be out of pocket by the end of it? seems like it needs little consideration. It will. Whether privately owned e-scooters could become legal beyond private property? is the more interesting and further reaching question.

    The initial thesis must be "this form of transport can be incorporated into the commuting 'eco-system' (sort of thing)." The experiment tests this thesis.

    Where does it sit in the hierarchy?

    It's not a road vehicle, surely we can all agree on that - people are already not inclined to ride e-bikes on the highway, and provision for cycles of any description is pretty woeful and more importantly unlikely to get any better any time soon, so no one with even half a brain is going to jump out of their car and on to an e-scooter if they have to join the queues on the A518.

    If this form of transport is not going to be allowed on the pavement, then it is already dead.

    There are things you could do - currently for example, cycle lanes need to be 1.5m in width, making it impossible to create separated cycle lanes on most footpaths; make scooter lanes half of that and you could make a massive network.

    The 15mph limit is undeniably excessive, but it's probably just based on existing e-bike legislation, and they are road legal - restrict e-scooters to 8mph and they're now in line with mobility scooters that are already legal on pavements, and you're still travelling at c. x2 normal walking pace, extending your 'range' by a factor of 2, Baswich to Town Centre in c.15mins.

    Obviously these possibilities will come to nothing because ultimately we are not allowed nice things because
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    so they might as well just pack up now.
     
  3. Tilly

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    Is it box ticking

    Or is the box ticking
     
  4. Glam

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    Group of 4 riding round Sainsburys short stay at the mo. They seem go quite a speed.
     
  5. Gramaisc

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    I have been told*:-

    1, They are supposed to be geo-locked from being powered when in the pedestrian area.

    2, There have been groups of lads riding them up and down the main street today.



    * But, I have no idea what is actually true any more.
     
  6. c0tt0nt0p

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    In regards to point one I would say that is a load of cobblers given that they are parked opposite the old 99p store (that was next to Lloyds Bank).
     
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    Spotted four parked at the Technology Park this morning.
     
  8. Wormella

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    I was trying to work out where you'd go on them but that makes sense. The outer reaches of the tech park to town is easily an 1hr walk, I wonder what those scooters cut it down to.
     
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    How do they get charged??
     
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    By the hour I guess.
     
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    But electricity?
     
  12. c0tt0nt0p

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    I've yet to see any charging points for them? The drop off point opposite the old 99p store is that, a drop off point only
     
  13. Feed The Goat

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    Good to see that the council is encouraging people to walk or cycle in order to get fit and stay healthy.

    I can use a council scooter to get my lard arse through the maccies drive through.

    Sorted.
     
  14. Withnail

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    Like a man who has impaled the fruit of the Pyrus on his penis, i am deep in dis pear.
     
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    I heard on radio Stoke yesterday that the council “may be reviewing the situation due to safety concerns about the scooters in pedestrian areas”
     
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    The main st and sq are open to traffic early and late, so the obvious solution is to make the scoots available only at night.
     
  17. gilesjuk

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    Thing is, we all assume scooters like this, skateboards, roller skates, bikes are all visible by pedestrians. But none of them are if you are blind.
     
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    TBF, nothing is visible if you are blind.

    It's almost like it's a defining feature of the condition.

    On its own, 'not being visible to blind people' is not an argument against anything.
     
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    Presumably they’re monitored and someone pops round to hot swap the battery.

    I did wonder about theft, but seems they use custom firmware, alarms, and the wheels lock when not in use. You’d presumably be driving round with one screaming to high heaven and giving away its location via GPS if you tried to pop it in the back of a van.

    Edit:

    According to this, yeah it’s battery swapping:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scooter-sharing_system
     
  20. Withnail

    Withnail Well-Known Forumite

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    It's almost like they thought of all of these things before you did.

    Get ready for a new word, kids - perspicacity

    :google: that shit, it's real.
     

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