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Stafford Hospital Inquiry - now the sham
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John Marwood
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Would that be the same Punch Taverns that owes three billions in English pounds ?
Would that be the same Punch Taverns that owes three billions in English pounds ?
staffordjas
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OMG Hope they get it improved bloody quick.I'm having a big op in SDGH in a couple of weeks time!
Hopefully it can't be as bad as Birmingham City Hospital.My mother-in-law died there ,after spending a nightmare few weeks being told to wee in the bed,as they didn't have time to come around with bed-pans and it was then changed once a day(if that)!
Hopefully it can't be as bad as Birmingham City Hospital.My mother-in-law died there ,after spending a nightmare few weeks being told to wee in the bed,as they didn't have time to come around with bed-pans and it was then changed once a day(if that)!
Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
I may have spoken too soon... Let's hope not. My other gran has gone in for an operation too, luckily she lives in Kent! *optimistic*me said:
Edit: it appears I may have fooked things up - I'm typing this at approx. 2am on Thursday, 3 September...
staffordjas
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When I had a smaller operation in May and was in the day ward,the nurse taking the needle out of my hand was wearing the same blue gloves as she had been wiping the next bed down with! When I said she hadn't changed her gloves she just said "It's ok" and whipped it out.
(I ended up wth an infection from there for a couple of weeks after,so was wishing I had been braver and not let her do it.)
I am determined to make sure of their cleanliness this time though before they touch me,well at least while being 'with-it' enough.
Glad you Gran is going on OK Lunar....Just hope I can report the same back soon!!!
(I ended up wth an infection from there for a couple of weeks after,so was wishing I had been braver and not let her do it.)
I am determined to make sure of their cleanliness this time though before they touch me,well at least while being 'with-it' enough.
Glad you Gran is going on OK Lunar....Just hope I can report the same back soon!!!
My mother is in there at the moment and it is so understaffed it's unbeleivable. Poor women are being left on their commodes and bed pans for up to an hour, I know this to be true as I see it regular and no exageration. I have some other horror stories to tell too but not enough hours in the day. Unfortunately we forget to mention that there are some good nurses there and they are being tarred with the same brush. You'd think though that with all the bad press that they have been having lately that the bad ones would clean their act up a bit.
djstaffs
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I have seen this too. Its a terrible state. Its true there are some great nurses there but i think of the majority of the others they arent bad but just very down trodden and put upon. They are so understaffed that sometimes they just have to plod on which is when we get people on commodes for far too long. It isnt right and it isnt acceptable but before we label these staff as bad ones we should consider their situation. But we will also find, i am sure, that some if them are just bad.Mrs M said:
basil
don't mention the blinds
This has gone on far too long, perhaps the SDGH needs a very active 'floor walker' whose only job is to be an absolute bastard they are most prominent in european hospitals and de rigeur in the far east. The brief for these most feared individuals is; grass, grass, grass.. An increasing number of staff are now hiding behind the bad press they could be identified and lets face it either shape up or ship out...........
tek-monkey
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That could be the issue, a fair few I know shipped out - abroad.basil said:
John Marwood
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djstaffs
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Apparantly health ministers have said they wont be taking this advice to make redundancies, so loks like Monday alot of staff will be getting P45s. Maybe they should just sack a couple health minsters? The savings not just in their slaries but their incompetence, mis-management and daft initiatives would save millions.John Marwood said:
John Marwood
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I have to post this even though I know that it may awake a certain person again
http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/09/16/secrecy-row-over-inquiry/
http://www.expressandstar.com/2009/09/16/secrecy-row-over-inquiry/
djstaffs
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Can i comment even if no one else wants to?
If i was a member of staff at Stafford i would welcome this, i wouldnt want to give eveidence where the public would be allowed in. Most staff will live in Stafford and the last thing you want is when your out someone who was at the inquery coming up to you in the street to ask you about the eveidence and worst still possibly seeing you as responsible.
If i was a member of staff at Stafford i would welcome this, i wouldnt want to give eveidence where the public would be allowed in. Most staff will live in Stafford and the last thing you want is when your out someone who was at the inquery coming up to you in the street to ask you about the eveidence and worst still possibly seeing you as responsible.
Gramaisc
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The converse is also true. If the enquiry is closed then people will assume that things are being hidden and some may even just assume that innocent people are guilty anyway. We all know that not everybody there is bad, but, equally, we all know that there are issues that really do need resolving. The truth shouldn't be seen as a problem.
djstaffs
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Agreed. But we well know that the public at large often want and need someone they can can actually blame especially with things like this. By having a public enquiry they could easily find someone to lay that blame on. The enquiry is about looking at what went wrong and putting things right. Holding it in public would not benefit anyone. People already know what they want it to say and held in public or private, if the result doesnt match up it will be called in to question. Because its held in private its being called a whitewash and it has hardly started. If it was public and still didnt measure up it would be accussed of not disclosing all facts or similar standard accusations.Gramaisc said:
staffordjas
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Just back a few days ago after a Hysterectomy operation last week,staying on Ward 8Mrs M said:
It is just as Mrs M says....patients left waiting for bedpans for hours and then consequently sitting in urine/excrement for hours.Buzzers and alarms going unanswered for ages.
There a a few good nurses,but a lot more who just do not care!
I have written a letter voicing my concerns.
The only time everyone was super-efficient was when a group of 'suited officials' came looking around for 5 minutes.Maybe there should be an 'undercover mystery visitor' going around!