The cows in asda

United57

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if anyone missed it


http://www.itv.com/news/central/2015-08-09/police-called-after-live-cows-taken-into-asda-superstore/


i wonder if the public will feel less sympathetic given that some of them protested about being low paid while wearing £50 joules tops

Lets not worry about what somebody wears lets consider the issue.

Milk is sold for less than water!

It costs farmers more to produce than they are paid for it.

Yes there are times in the year where they can probably produce for less than 24 pence a litre.

So if they only produced in the summer and spring then we would be in trouble.
 

John Marwood

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Your chicken was probably factory produced in Slovakia.
Much of the milk used in coffee shops comes from a mystery state outside the UK
Hotdogs may soon be the only foodstuff genuinely labelled
Enjoy!
 

littleme

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I didn't realise it was In Stafford asda ! I could have taken my bucket down there , got my milk straight from source :-D
Apparently they tried to get in Lidl too....


The part I don't understand is why they ever agreed to *supply supermarkets for less than it costs to produce the milk?

*as far as I'm aware you have to agree a sale (to supermarket) price before you start supplying them with the goods....

Surely supermarkets wouldn't go back on a contract & pay less before the contract was up?
 

staffordjas

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Surely supermarkets wouldn't go back on a contract & pay less before the contract was up?

I read on teletext (or whatever it's called on the telly these days) earlier, something like Asda are reducing the price they are paying at the moment by 0.08p per litre (I was dashing out so didn't read it properly...)
 

staffordjas

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Just read that on the other thread, probably was Muller I read then but had Asda in my head......(can't check what I read on the text as hubby engrossed in a film )
 

proactive

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Those that are that concerned about farmers making money on milk will buy their milk elsewhere.
 

kyoto49

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Apparently they tried to get in Lidl too....


The part I don't understand is why they ever agreed to *supply supermarkets for less than it costs to produce the milk?

*as far as I'm aware you have to agree a sale (to supermarket) price before you start supplying them with the goods....

Surely supermarkets wouldn't go back on a contract & pay less before the contract was up?

I'm no market expert but my understanding is that farmers produce milk and only have a limited number of outlets (Supermarkets, Muller et al) for said milk. All outlets are getting squeezed by the customer for cheaper milk and it becomes a loss leader, made worse by cheap imports. The farmer is between a rock and a hard place. Refuse to sell at the ridiculously low price the outlets are paying and he's left with a shit load of milk and no buyer, sell at the very low price and he's making a loss. If British dairy farmers hold out for a higher price the supermarkets will just buy cheaper, lower welfare milk from overseas. Alot of dairy farmers have decided not to sell at a loss and ended up going out of business. I'm also led to believe that milk sold as milk generates a higher price for the farmers than milk sold for cheese and yoghurt type products. Supermarkets most definitely do go back on contracts to pay a certain price. What can the farmer do? his cows will still be costing money to keep and will still be producing milk. they have to accept the reduction. Finally, if we all bought our milk from the milkman, thereby guaranteeing the farmers a decent price for their product, we'd cut out the profit making supermarkets, we'd directly support the dairy industry and we'd employ the local milkman too boot.

I have the name of a very reliable milkman if anyone is interested :)
 

Dabbler

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It's a shame that Asda has forgotten its roots in an effort to compete, and a bit ironic that they started life as a co-operative of dairy farmers...
 

kyoto49

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If everyone bought milk from the milkman the farmers wouldn't be in this position. It's easy for each person in this country to do something. Boycotting supermarket milk would be a good start. As supermarkets use cheap milk as a way to lure customers in who never leave with just milk doing this would definitely hit the amount of money in their tills.
 

ATJ

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I can confirm they also tried Lidl, I was there.

Not entirely sure how traumatising a cow with a road trip to its final resting place is any more effective than the same protest without said cow.
 

Lucy

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I've contacted Wells Dairy who've given me the name of the milk man who delivers their milk round here. Some milkmen are employed by Dairy Crest, which doesn't solve anything.

It's interesting that everyone assumes milk is used as a loss leader. Doesn't that mean the supermarkets sell at a loss? It doesn't seem to be happening in this case.
 

kyoto49

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I've contacted Wells Dairy who've given me the name of the milk man who delivers their milk round here. Some milkmen are employed by Dairy Crest, which doesn't solve anything.

It's interesting that everyone assumes milk is used as a loss leader. Doesn't that mean the supermarkets sell at a loss? It doesn't seem to be happening in this case.

Every pound that goes to a proper milkman and away from the supermarkets can only be a good thing for British dairy farmers :)
 
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