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The slow crawl out of self distancing

Discussion in 'Stafford Chat' started by c0tt0nt0p, May 6, 2020.

  1. c0tt0nt0p

    c0tt0nt0p Well-Known Forumite

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    For anyone who doesn't know KFC is back open again on the Hough retail park. There was a sentinel article saying it was delivery only however the drive through was queuing back to the entrance of those units....
     
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    perry081064 Well-Known Forumite

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    My daughter tried to order from there an hour or so ago but they wasnt taking orders , i bet thats why .

    ..... she settled for a ice cream delivery instead from elsewhere , shes 24 but still a child at heart :P
     
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    In all seriousness, what can be announced on Sunday that can start on Monday? It isn't going to be shops as less than a day's notice is pointless.

    Spike in deaths at Spring Bank Holiday it is.
     
  5. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    The cops had to 'ask' a Costa in Manchester to close the other day, as the queue was blocking the roads around it....
     
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    I'd expect the easing of restrictions to focus around outdoor activities as these are thought to be very low risk.

    don't be so sure, people are a lot more aware of the measures to protect themselves and others than they were in early March and we have seen how willing people are to slow transmission.
     
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    Carole Well-Known Forumite

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    I’m just so angry right now, I’m positively incandescent with people deciding whether they are at risk or not.

    The message currently is STAY AT HOME.

    People aren’t staying at home, people are deciding whether they themselves are at risk.

    I saw this today in our village.

    A person who has a daughter living with him and this daughter is a nurse working front line with Coved 19.

    But is this person taking precautions, keeping a distance from others?
    No, he’s off visiting his other mate in the village, riding round the village in the car, or standing close together in the garden.
    No social distancing whatsoever.

    The more people see other people doing it, they think, “oh ok, I’ll do it then”

    And this is how it perpetuates.
    We’re either in in together or we’re not.
     
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    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    I was rather confused by this, as it seemed contrary to your previous posts, but @Carole may have explained it?

    The lack of a comma after "sure" does rather reverse the meaning.

    Is Carole's reading correct?

    People do seem to think this is about them not getting infected themselves, rather than them not being part of a chain that leads to others getting infected.

    Sad, really.
     
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    Carole Well-Known Forumite

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    Another Example.
    We’re doing the stay at home street party for VE Day.
    Sit outside your front bit of garden with a picnic.

    I think the clue is “STAY AT HOME”

    So why say “Can my neighbour bring his friend who lives in the next village”

    NO, what bit of stay at home aren’t you getting?
     
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    perry081064 Well-Known Forumite

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    I would imagine any shops allowed to trade would have already been notified via government channels as to what guidelines they would need to follow and set in place ready. The general public dont always get that info first.
     
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    cj1 Well-Known Forumite

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    messaging is also set to change from "stay at home" to "stay safe"
     
  12. Gramaisc

    Gramaisc Forum O. G.

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    Has there been a time when we shouldn't have been aiming to "stay safe"?
     
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    Yes, apparently - about the same time that Alexander was 'joshing' about shaking hands.

    Before he apparently almost died - what larks!

    If we'd actually 'locked down' , like we ended up doing anyway, just two weeks before Alexander was larking about and shaking hands, somewhere in the region of 30,000 people wouldn't now be dead.

    But he's a right character, isn't he?
     
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    but we only locked down because of earlier mistakes. for me, the 12th march was when the crucial error was made in the UK. that was when they withdrew the contain measures and moved in to delay. if they had kept and ramped up the contain measures (track test trace isolate.) whilst implementing the delay phase many transmission chains could have been broken.
     
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    PeterD ST16 Represent.

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    Knowing what we know, that you can be killed by a virus and what you can do to stop being killed by that virus. I am not really looking at the government to relax rules, due, you know, the death thing. So even if they do I like to think I won’t change what I am doing now.
     
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    The pint of milk & loaf of bread .........
    Handled at source.
    Same at distribution centre.
    Same at supermarket.
    Goes into shopping trolly that has only (at best) had the handle cleaned.
    Handed to shop checkout person (lets ignore self scan for this)
    No cash if you can, card only.

    Online shop ?
    Damn near the same except for close proximity to others.

    Have seen ..........
    At least 6 staff behind the desk mingling in the doctors reception while patient kept at least 6ft away, same goes for chemist and none of those were tested (I asked)
    Same for staff behind the doors at the supermarket, those doors where the staff go into and out of the warehouse (no need to ask about being tested)

    For sure keeping a distance seems to make sense but that's all it is IMO (not a popular view I know)
     
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    It is what it is :|.
    I've worked in food production and i could tell you some stories that would put you off mass produced / prepped food for life so no difference there trust me :barf:.
    I take the lesser risk by having my groceries delivered , however whatever can be washed/wiped, disinfected is done so before entry to the house.
     
  18. Glam

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    Try and do my job, a lot of our patients are full on personal care, requiring a minimum of 2 staff, one lady needs 4 for all hands on approaches. There is no safe distancing in Mental Health.
     
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    Hi Glam
    Do not get me wrong as I can well imagine what you are up against (kind of anyway)
    All NHS staff (all & support) should have been tested from day 1 (IMO) and the same goes for those they had to treat/help, falling that then full PPE should have been on hand.

    My comments are just aimed at the irony of it all & all the know nothing Big Sir's in charge giving their we know best advice to the workers (Ferguson ?)
     
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    Having discovered I needed to buy some half decent wood filler for the front door step I thought a quick trip to b&q would sort it out.... Wrong!

    A queue going back around the back end of the car park was in place and I passed one couple driving off in a convertible very happy with their "essential" 5ft plants sticking out of the back of the car....

    I don't hold much hope for this nation.....
     
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    Ginger???
     

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