zebidee said:
Bit hard when you've got a mighty mortgage on a tiny house. Plus people don't like being forced to change the way they live, do they?
So they popped out a sprog to get the extra money to get a bigger house? Ludicrous, **** their child benefits. If I can earn 23k and still afford a mortgage on a 3 bed house I have no sympathy for someone on double that who can't, just because they chose to breed. Their choice, they live with it.
zebidee said:
And who knows what to make of the Daily Mail stating that it wouldn't apply to a couple each earning slightly under the threshold, surely the government wouldn't seriously think that a family earning a combined income of £80k needs child benefit more than a one wage family earning £44k?
If a parent stays at home your childcare costs are massively reduced, certainly by more than child benefit covers. Although, this being the DM, I won't bother arguing further until its shown to be the truth.
zebidee said:
What irritates me is it even goes against their blooming campaign to 'reward' married couples who have one parent at home. Seems that they can't keep their own policies straight.
I'm with shoes on this one, I don't think married couples should get any breaks. Why incentivise an outmoded practice of forcing people together, surely if they want to stay together they would, regardless of tiny contributions towards their boglin factory?
zebidee said:
Let's hope the government start doing things to actually HELP people soon.
As far as I can see they are trying to reduce the absolutely massive debt the last gov got us into, and if taking benefits off people that really have no right to them in the first place is their first call then I say good on them. I'd say stop child benefit at the second kid though, and certainly not pay it if your HOUSEHOLD earns more than 44k. You can afford to pay for your own kids, why do I have to support you if you earn double what I do?
Fookin hell, the more I here this stuff the more Tory I'm thinking. This really saddens me.
shoes said:
tek-monkey said:
Wrong, its unethical to say they can't have them
Don't think I will ever understand this point mate, it just seems complete nonsense to me.
You can't say "You are not allowed more than 1 child", that is unethical and against their human rights.
You can however say "Have as many as you like, but you get absolutely jack **** for any extra than 2 you pump out. 2 is how many the country wants, any more are your own problem." This is not unethical, it is merely spending government funds as best required for the good of the country.
I fail to see how the 2 can't work together.
Also, shoes, how did you manage to quote trumpet when it was zebidee that said that?!?!?!