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i can't help but like lily allen, tbh.. it's really well produced imo, and just meanders along nicely..Augustus Gloop said:
AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! The Scissor Sisters make me want to hurl myself out of the window every single time they come on the telly. Unfortunately, as the enemy falls into the category of 'woman', she quite likes them.Augustus Gloop said:
The thing is there's an awful lot of 'new' hip hop out there which is quite poor and merely formulaic. As you says there are excpetions and there's good stuff out there in all the genres, folk just need to do a little bit of digging. Being told by twats like Whiley, Lowe and the NME that they're doing you a favour by introducing you to these bands just loves me off. It's patronising and insulting. Suggests a music listener isn't capable of discovering music or if they do they aren't discovering - and enjoying - the 'right' acts. Although it's debatable whether anything they push can be considered 'quality'.jimbob23 said:
you're not wrong.. i'd say hip-hop suffers just as much as rock/indie from the "churning out old repetitive nonsense" disease..Augustus Gloop said:
yeah, but in fairness people like your good self probably aren't their target audience.. these DJs are on radio 1 - the uk's biggest and thus most mainstream radio station.. i wouldn't expect MTV to play "credible" artists, because that's not what they're there for; likewise radio 1.. for the majority of radio 1 listeners, this "brand new music" they're pushing is exactly that, and most of them probably really won't hear it unless they were introduced by these self-styled pioneers..Augustus Gloop said:
I'm not commenting on the quality of current hip hop - that's a whole new argument. My point was that some people seem to be of the view that if a band can and do play instruments they must be good. Many of said people seem to be using that argument to justify the presence of so many wank guitar bands in the charts, and to validate their (ill informed) opinion that 'rock' is unconditionally better than pop/hip hop/dance etc.Augustus Gloop said:
I'll take my hip hop any way I can get it, up to a point. I draw the line at Ja Rule gravel-voicingly shouting "Luuhhhve yoooou!" over the top for instance. Jazz and soul are pretty argeeable ingredients.TENSHON said:
Got no problem with the bands (although I don't like the music) however they're not 'emo'. Never are, never will be. Emo - or emotional hardcore as it was - was a term coined in the 80s and has somehow been approrpiated by the mainstream press now (as it always does) and turned into something it never was and was never intended to be. They're essnetially pop bands, guitar pop or something like that.rich upsetter said:
