Lunar Scorpion
Anarchy in the UK
Try eating raw meat. I'd love to see how well you digest it.
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Steak tartar (how do you spell that?), air dried ham, likewise jerky. But no,since we discovered fire our stomachs have more issues with uncooked meats.
So, local only vegan diet?
Likewise I'd be amazed if someone went for a fully vegan restaurant, I'd wholeheartedly support them in spirit but I also doubt I'd eat there often as I nearly always eat in a group and therefore try to cater for everyone. Thats the problem, losing a customer base before they've even entered.
I'd love to see someone try it, it may well take off if the food is good and not merely vegan, but I wouldn't risk my own livelihood on the idea.
Replied here - http://www.staffordforum.com/xf/index.php?threads/veggie-vegan-discussion.13915/page-2#post-227116'their loss' is yours if you have a vegan restaurant.
Humans are omnivorous, I'm not even sure we can live healthily on a 100% local vegan diet without supplements? Of course we can fly food in from around the globe but it's hardly a natural diet, I'd rather eat a local pig than an Israeli vegetable. Otherwise vegans would rarely need to shop, they could grow everything in their gardens and greenhouses surely?
Completely missed the point I was making.Their loss. It's not my fault they've never educated themselves on human nutrition.
I never said everyone wants bacon, I said refusing to sell meat will put off a lot of customers. Stafford can't even support a Mexican restaurant and I love Mexican food, yet we have a surprising amount of Indian restaurants that thrive. A lot of Indians are vegetarian themselves or eat meat rarely, yet the vegetarian options are fairly insignificant when compared to the carnivorous. To me that says they know what sells around here
Who knows, maybe one day Stafford will get a vegan restaurant, but you need someone to both want and be able to afford to open it. You're in the same boat as me with my cider I'm afraid, I'm happy to find a single option in a pub and will likely never see an actual cider pub in this town.
I didn't ask you to become vegan, and forcing everyone to conform to your idea of what a human diet should be is rather fascist. (As I have said many times before, you can eat what you want - as long as I can eat what I want.) A lot of vegans do grow their own food.
re the underlined bit. Stafford does not have an Indian restaurant, not one single one. Stafford has Bangladeshi restaurants, selling Bengali food. I'm a little shocked you don't know this being such an advocate of 'Indian' restaurants. :S. As you say, most Indians are vegetarian, and the sheer amount of dead animal on any 'Indian' restaurant's menu should send a red flag that they are not actually Indian at all. This is the reason that they have meat on the menu, not due to customer demand. I assume you've noticed that there is no pig on the menu though...
re the bold bit, that's a bit like saying, a tropical fish and aquarium shop will never do any good becuase not everyone will want to go there. Not everyone wants to go to most shops and restaurants, it doesn't mean we should only have shops that everyone will shop in.
If a really good vegan restaurant opened, I'd say more a cafe/bistro rather than a restaurant, that was accessible, reasonably priced and sold good quality simple food, nothing pretentious, I think it would do very well in Stafford; providing of course people weren't narrow minded and influenced by preconceived b*llocks about vegan food!!
Customer demand, exactly. I'm well aware they are Bangladeshi, but Indian is a catch all for currys to be fair. I'd call a Balti an Indian and that comes from brum. Still, customer demand. Not real Indian food then, the UK doesn't want that, and Indians outnumber vegans on any statistic I can find? So a Vegan restaurant is less viable than a true Indian one, based on their direct consumer base. If I'm wrong start one.
Then start a vegan restaurant and cash in.
Then, erm, start a vegan restaurant and cash in?
I suppose if I was with friends who wanted to go for a 'veggie', I'd have no problem and though I'm a fussy bugger, I'm more than confident I'd find something I'd enjoy. I certainly don't see meals without meat as not being proper meals - I often have a 'veggie' meal (though probably not in the HenrysCat sense) of beans-on-toast.Yes of course it doesn't exclude anyone but how many people wouldn't go to a vegetarian restaurant because it didn't give them the choice of having meat?
It wouldn't stop me but I guess it would stop lots of people. There are a lot of people who don't see vegetarian meals as "proper" food purely because no meat is offered.
I suppose if I was with friends who wanted to go for a 'veggie', I'd have no problem and though I'm a fussy bugger, I'm more than confident I'd find something I'd enjoy. I certainly don't see meals without meat as not being proper meals - I often have a 'veggie' meal (though probably not in the HenrysCat sense) of beans-on-toast.
Just out of interest, how many of you meat eaters ever choose from the vegetarian options when you go out for a meal? I can't think that I ever have, even though I would have no problem considering them. It's just that there's usually a non-vegetarian meal on the menu that I prefer.
So when's this new vegan restaurant/shop/business opening, then?