Recycling changes...

Withnail

Well-Known Forumite
In B4...

First time i ever saw it, someone had their all-new-blue-bag declined - had the *we didn't pick it up* tag on it and everything - not because it had alien material within, but because it was...

... too heavy.

Too heavy, man...

Now i know that the road is long, with many a winding turn, but come on.

Don't give me a hard time, i'm just telling you - call the number on the tag and *they* will come round
 

Cue

Well-Known Forumite
In B4...

First time i ever saw it, someone had their all-new-blue-bag declined - had the *we didn't pick it up* tag on it and everything - not because it had alien material within, but because it was...

... too heavy.

Too heavy, man...

Now i know that the road is long, with many a winding turn, but come on.

Don't give me a hard time, i'm just telling you - call the number on the tag and *they* will come round

Hmm, it’s almost as if they’re not fit for purpose...
 

Withnail

Well-Known Forumite
TBF paper is surprisingly heavy, as anyone who has needed to move big boxes of books would know.

I've just been a bit weird and measured the bag and done some 'fag-packet' calculations that are only as good as the 'crap in' -

bag is
h= 60cm
w= 45cm
d= 32cm

volume = 86,400 cm3

weight of paper = 1.201g per cm3

=> a full bag of paper would weigh over 100 kg

- which is not something i would want to lift alone, but then i am but a puny earthling.
 

Cue

Well-Known Forumite
TBF paper is surprisingly heavy, as anyone who has needed to move big boxes of books would know.

I've just been a bit weird and measured the bag and done some 'fag-packet' calculations that are only as good as the 'crap in' -

bag is
h= 60cm
w= 45cm
d= 32cm

volume = 86,400 cm3

weight of paper = 1.201g per cm3

=> a full bag of paper would weigh over 100 kg

- which is not something i would want to lift alone, but then i am but a puny earthling.

Precisely why it would have made a lot more sense to put everything but paper and cardboard in the bags. Yes some glass might get smashed but it might get smashed being dropped to the bottom of a blue bin too - if the bag can’t take some glass shards without tearing it’s not going to hold up long term anyway.

That's got to be the greatest understatement of all time.

In the grand scheme of things that’s fairly tame weirdness from @Withnail I’d say
 

c0tt0nt0p

Well-Known Forumite
You never know, they might come to their senses and flip it so cardboard stays in the bin and everything else goes on the bag ?!
 

Cue

Well-Known Forumite
You never know, they might come to their senses and flip it so cardboard stays in the bin and everything else goes on the bag ?!

Council? Sensible?

I did ask if I could put my cardboard in one blue bin and everything else in the other but they were having none of that idea.
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
How about putting wheels on the blue bags? We could call them “wheelie bags” and they could be moved around with ease by the recycling technicians so they didn’t hurt themselves when emptying them.
 

Cue

Well-Known Forumite
How about putting wheels on the blue bags? We could call them “wheelie bags” and they could be moved around with ease by the recycling technicians so they didn’t hurt themselves when emptying them.

Great idea! And perhaps we could make them more rigid so that they hold stuff better? Perhaps even make them in a way that allows the bin lorry to pick it up to really make sure the bin men don’t hurt themselves
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
Great idea! And perhaps we could make them more rigid so that they hold stuff better? Perhaps even make them in a way that allows the bin lorry to pick it up to really make sure the bin men don’t hurt themselves
Anazing idea, they could be blue, like the bags too....
 

GNM67

Well-Known Forumite
tetrapaks are the wax cartons
package-portfolio.jpg
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
We used to get milk in the original Tetra Pak shape in Cyprus. It was a very efficient packaging and shipping system, but a bit awkward for the consumer, in terms of handling when open and more demanding of shelf space in the fridge. Ours were half litre packs, but in the same tetrahedral shape as this smaller one, a tube sealed at the bottom, filled, then sealed at right angles at the top.

Coffee_cream_TetraPak.jpg


I don't recall ever seeing this form in the UK, except for tiny individual milk/cream servings. the Brik style arrived fairly quickly. They seem to be mostly card/aluminium/plastic film laminations now, rather than the old 'waxed card', that went into that familiar soggy edge soon after you had managed to open it, although they still had a plastic lamination on the inside, I'm sure.

By the time I arrived back in the UK, people were already complaining about the new "winged boxes".


Then the various plastic opening/pouring appendages began to be attached, evolving into what we see today, also preventing 'soggy edge syndrome' - and further contributing to the awkwardness of recycling the material.
 
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