Racist graffiti appearing around town

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EasMid

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PeterD said:
In Polish aimed at muslims. I think there may be some still on the notice board on the square unless they have been removed.
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They come here, steal our homes, take our jobs claim all our benefits & now they're condemning our muslims. Who do they think they are?
 
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Lunar Scorpion

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Deface that shit. I always carry a Sharpie, if you can't rip stickers down then deface them with your keys or cover them up with your own stickers (get them printed yourself or buy online - examples below).

http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/2411-anti-fascism-sticker.html
http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/3057-anti-fascist-area-sticker.html
http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/2672-fascist-scum-sticker.html
http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/3276-fck-nzs-sticker.html
 
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Cue

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Lunar Scorpion said:
Deface that shit. I always carry a Sharpie, if you can't rip stickers down then deface them with your keys or cover them up with your own stickers (get them printed yourself or buy online - examples below).

http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/2411-anti-fascism-sticker.html
http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/3057-anti-fascist-area-sticker.html
http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/2672-fascist-scum-sticker.html
http://www.activedistributionshop.org/shop/stickers/3276-fck-nzs-sticker.html
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No good deed goes unpunished unfortunately, so knowing that the ones defacing the racism will probably be the ones getting caught for it
 
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Gareth

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Stafford Borough Councils take on graffiti is shameful, the just don't care.

There are sections around town that are disgrace:

_The wall and bridges that are between lammascote and riverway.

_ the rail bridge that connects castlefields with castle town

_ every wall/ around sainsburys car park

- every bridge through west coast main line.

_ grade listed mottram stand in Victoria park

_ goal gate car park.

_ between greggs and boots alleyway.

I have been told residence go out and paint over graffiti the council cannot be arsed over.

It is embarrassing for the town especially with some colourful language. SbC are happy to dish out fines if caught, but don't use it to clean up.
 
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EasMid

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With all the conflict that Britain has been involved in over recent years there must be a few out of work snipers that could be employed to solve the problem of graffiti artists.
 
Benedict

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Really? said:
This will offend some but it's an interesting dilemma: I was in Walsall yesterday and on one of the boarded up shop windows there was some Graffiti that read "Death to the English, it's our country now" and "kill the wite" (sic)

As a "white" English person I realised the quandary we are in.
1) I initially just laughed and thought that's quite cute (my sense of humour)
2) Then I thought, we seem to have a number of racists on every side and of every colour, caste or creed
3) But then I thought, perhaps this might be a white person, deliberately stirring up trouble
4) Or perhaps it's not, and it is just plain and simple a racist/idiot/etc.

What was quite un nerving for me though, is that my mind kept going back to No. 3, making me feel bad that a "white" person wrote a message condemning a "white" person just to stir up feelings within other "white" people and I wondered how far/low have we come when even I automatically assume that only "white" people can be racist.
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You sure it wasn't Banksy? he does a lot of street art..
 
kyoto49

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Gareth said:
Stafford Borough Councils take on graffiti is shameful, the just don't care.

There are sections around town that are disgrace:

_The wall and bridges that are between lammascote and riverway.

_ the rail bridge that connects castlefields with castle town

_ every wall/ around sainsburys car park

- every bridge through west coast main line.

_ grade listed mottram stand in Victoria park

_ goal gate car park.

_ between greggs and boots alleyway.

I have been told residence go out and paint over graffiti the council cannot be arsed over.

It is embarrassing for the town especially with some colourful language. SbC are happy to dish out fines if caught, but don't use it to clean up.
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As someone who loves urban art, there are far more important things I would rather the council spend their money on than covering up graffiti; our old people for example, or things to do for the kids. It's completely pointless spending thousands and thousands of pounds over and over and over only for our bored youth to spray the surface again and again and again. Spend the money on giving them something to actually do!
 
Mikinton

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Sadly, I don't recall this example of urban art staying up for long.

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Goldilox

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Actually street scene are surprisingly good at getting rid of graffiti that actually has artistic merit, it's the pointless tagging that gets ignored. A street scene employed artist who's known to most on this forum, suggested it was because the memorable stuff gets reported a lot quicker.

In other news the racist graffiti has gone from the Lichfield road/ St Leonards bus stop. @Wormella is claiming credit after chasing up Clear Channel via Twitter this afternoon
 
Gramaisc

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Goldilox said:
Actually street scene are surprisingly good at getting rid of graffiti that actually has artistic merit, it's the pointless tagging that gets ignored. A street scene employed artist who's known to most on this forum, suggested it was because the memorable stuff gets reported a lot quicker.
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I retain a regret about not recording the one at the White House ATMs a few years ago.
 
Mikinton

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I was always rather fond of the first couple of lines of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" scrawled in 18" high letters under Queensway, by the KwikFit roundabout.
 
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Carole

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kyoto49 said:
As someone who loves urban art, there are far more important things I would rather the council spend their money on than covering up graffiti;
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There is a massive difference in urban art (which I also love) and racist graffiti.

Feasibly though, I don't really think the council have the resources to have a devoted "Graffiti Department " where they sit down in a board room having a discussion, followed by lunch (at tax payers expense) followed by a vote on which bits of art/graffiti should be kept and which should be cleaned over.

You'd be the first person to complain @kyoto49 if someone put racist graffiti on the side of your house and the council did nothing about it.
 
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Gareth

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kyoto49 said:
As someone who loves urban art, there are far more important things I would rather the council spend their money on than covering up graffiti; our old people for example, or things to do for the kids. It's completely pointless spending thousands and thousands of pounds over and over and over only for our bored youth to spray the surface again and again and again. Spend the money on giving them something to actually do!
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But all councils get a budget and street scene will have theirs.

It is the Councils responsibility to keep area clean and tidy and respectable ( as it ours).

SBC stance as claimed on their website, they don't remove graffiti. So straight off it screams of not caring.

I find this odd as every other council in Staffs take it seriously, including Souths Staffs and Lichfield, who I guarantee have less of a graffiti problem than Stafford.

Also interesting to note that other councils in Staffs vary on who pays for the removal. Councils put enforcement actions on property owners to remove/ share or work in partnership to deal with removal/ issues.

Some councils even remove graffiti to then charge owners etc for the clean up if they have refused to do so, if those responsible are not caught at all.

SBC do none of the above.

Interesting to note the view of graffiti in the anti social behaviour act and the powers councils have, graffiti is a form of needless unattractive vandalism at the end of day.

All of which are ignored by SBC.

So we allow graffiti and pointless tagging to expand creating a shabby, dirty, messy and uncaring look in the town.

Maybe I am just getting old.
 
kyoto49

kyoto49

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Gareth said:
But all councils get a budget and street scene will have theirs.

It is the Councils responsibility to keep area clean and tidy and respectable ( as it ours).

SBC stance as claimed on their website, they don't remove graffiti. So straight off it screams of not caring.

I find this odd as every other council in Staffs take it seriously, including Souths Staffs and Lichfield, who I guarantee have less of a graffiti problem than Stafford.

Also interesting to note that other councils in Staffs vary on who pays for the removal. Councils put enforcement actions on property owners to remove/ share or work in partnership to deal with removal/ issues.

Some councils even remove graffiti to then charge owners etc for the clean up if they have refused to do so, if those responsible are not caught at all.

SBC do none of the above.

Interesting to note the view of graffiti in the anti social behaviour act and the powers councils have, graffiti is a form of needless unattractive vandalism at the end of day.

All of which are ignored by SBC.

So we allow graffiti and pointless tagging to expand creating a shabby, dirty, messy and uncaring look in the town.

Maybe I am just getting old.
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What yur last line said I reckon!!!!

It's harmless, some of it is very very talented, and I still maintain we have far more important things to spend our money on :)
 
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Gareth

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But is the council doing their duty that they have a budget for.

I also don't mind a bit of street art if it is right......whether property owners it is on would think the same is another matter.

What I am referring to is the ugly tagging and signing, graffiti on grade listed buidlings, the c and f word graffiti on bridge walls (by the railway station), racist words and so on.

This the council should take seriously and look after the town, not let it became that of a certain reputation.

Looking on other councils sites it is quite impressive how seriously other councils take this.
 
ATJ

ATJ

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Mikinton said:
I was always rather fond of the first couple of lines of "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" scrawled in 18" high letters under Queensway, by the KwikFit roundabout.
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I always hated that one! It always made me sad that someone went to such effort to paint something so insipid when they could have done a mini socialist manifesto or something.

There's some spectacular graffiti I've seen in parts of Spain. Either street art or declarations and manifestos. None of this tagging crap.

Whoever has tagged 'BAD' all the way up the sow between Fairway and Asda is an imagination-less div.
 
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