Another one gone - Shops closing in Stafford

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andy w

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Has it been mentioned about the Card Factory being empty in the Guildhall, does amyone know if it's gone for good or having a refit. It's sad to see the Guildhall looking so empty with the knowledge more to follow.
On a postive note more stalls have been filled in the Market hall
 

70-plus

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Lichfield is still looking vibrant. what is happening to Stafford - is it the cost of car-parking or is it because there are fewer shops and we are in a downward spiral.
 

daz100

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Has it been mentioned about the Card Factory being empty in the Guildhall, does amyone know if it's gone for good or having a refit. It's sad to see the Guildhall looking so empty with the knowledge more to follow.
On a postive note more stalls have been filled in the Market hall
The card factory is open. The empty unit is the new unit (bigger).
 

rbellamy

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Lichfield is still looking vibrant. what is happening to Stafford - is it the cost of car-parking or is it because there are fewer shops and we are in a downward spiral.
I think both of those things, and the worsening traffic congestion doesn't inspire many to visit the town either (residents or visitors) in my view. But consumers are voting with their feet, and the Stafford we see unfolding before us is the result.
 

andy w

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The card factory is open. The empty unit is the new unit (bigger).
They say a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, the same goes for not taking much notice. Thanks for the update, can understand having a bigger unit as you can't move in there sometimes.
 

staffordjas

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The card factory is open. The empty unit is the new unit (bigger).
can understand having a bigger unit as you can't move in there sometimes.

Good to see it is actually still open.
I go in there a lot but did start going to the card shop which was next to farmfoods for a while ,when I got frustrated not being able to get around the shop to the cards I wanted in The Card Factory. Since the other card shop closed down I've returned to shopping in The Card factory , but only when I'm in town early morning when it's less packed.
 

Noah

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Lichfield is still looking vibrant. what is happening to Stafford - is it the cost of car-parking or is it because there are fewer shops and we are in a downward spiral.


Has it perked up again then, looking very run down when I was last there. Lots of empty shops in the Three Spires and around the town generally.
 

andy w

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Has it perked up again then, looking very run down when I was last there. Lots of empty shops in the Three Spires and around the town generally.
Haven't been to Lichfield for a while but a new Debenhams is opening where TJ Hughes used to be. Would be nice to see Debenhams take on the Co op store in Stafford, we live in hope
 

United57

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Haven't been to Lichfield for a while but a new Debenhams is opening where TJ Hughes used to be. Would be nice to see Debenhams take on the Co op store in Stafford, we live in hope

Doubt it we have one in Stoke and one in Birmingham.

We have councillors who think attracting multiples is the way forward. Lets support local independents. Then you may get multiples but would you want them? Its unique and individual High Streets that are doing well. The ones people go to and ay that good its not the same as every other High street.
 

70-plus

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I agree that we should encourage local independents. But one small shop which opened couldn't continue because the business rates were too high. This needs to be considered. Perhaps rents and rates should be reduced. car parking should indeed be free.
 

Tumble weed

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Guildhall is going to be looking very bleak with no real achor stores, maybe Topman & River Island should supersize ? Or split Topman / Topshop off into two?
 

doghead

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The plight of Stafford, cannot be attributed to any specific reason, and its due to a perfect storm of numering factors that are all interlinked and are not wholly confined to the town or the surrounding areas.
1. The transport links into the town are woeful. linked to this is the numering retail parks, that clog up the roads on entry to the town, which further dimishes footfall. Also within this is the lack of bus station and public transport prices in gerneral.
2.The supermarkets are all on the edge of town, making them 'one stop locations', which in turn keeps people away from the town.
3.There is no entertainment or landmark in the town to entice people in. shops on there own cant fill the void and better cinemas, resterraunts, swimming pools, food courts etc would increase the likelyhood of footfall for the shops to feed off. only the town park in stafford should be proud of itself as a destination to spend time with people or enter the town.
4.internet shopping
5.Retail parks, and free parking at these sites.
6.old, outdated shops, that are the wrong size for modern retail units and put top end retailers off investing in the town.
7. the shops themselves sell outdated items, are overpriced, have not modernised, do not have unique selling points and struggle with the major supermarkets in town. the shops that have all or some of these aspects will survive, and prosper. Hmv relied on the same buisness model whilst the world changed around them, and millets had no unique selling point, selling overpriced gear in a woeful retail unit.
8. the worldwide economic disaster.
9. the de- centralised nature of staffords town center.
10. maybe car parking fee's.
11. less and less people being employed in and around the town center, going to college there and generally less people to combine to make the 10% portion of pick up purchases, so crucial to retail.
12. the ineptitude of the council
13. not many independents and the lack of selling point as county town and market town.
14.buisness rates, buisness tax, inflation. but this is not unique to stafford.
15 i could go on and on and on, but stafford is on a collision course for oblivion.


as a solution, i would turn the guildhall into an entertainment center, with cinema, foodhall etc. turn the old co- op into t a new indoor market, and stop giving planning permission to outdoor retail parks. fire the people who design the road networks around the town and increase the incentive for people to enter stafford, without purely relying on retail which is the biggest casualty of a wordwide economic crisis.

simple..... now back to Mr brains faggots and scotch.
 

daz100

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The plight of Stafford, cannot be attributed to any specific reason, and its due to a perfect storm of numering factors that are all interlinked and are not wholly confined to the town or the surrounding areas.
1. The transport links into the town are woeful. linked to this is the numering retail parks, that clog up the roads on entry to the town, which further dimishes footfall. Also within this is the lack of bus station and public transport prices in gerneral.
2.The supermarkets are all on the edge of town, making them 'one stop locations', which in turn keeps people away from the town.
3.There is no entertainment or landmark in the town to entice people in. shops on there own cant fill the void and better cinemas, resterraunts, swimming pools, food courts etc would increase the likelyhood of footfall for the shops to feed off. only the town park in stafford should be proud of itself as a destination to spend time with people or enter the town.
4.internet shopping
5.Retail parks, and free parking at these sites.
6.old, outdated shops, that are the wrong size for modern retail units and put top end retailers off investing in the town.
7. the shops themselves sell outdated items, are overpriced, have not modernised, do not have unique selling points and struggle with the major supermarkets in town. the shops that have all or some of these aspects will survive, and prosper. Hmv relied on the same buisness model whilst the world changed around them, and millets had no unique selling point, selling overpriced gear in a woeful retail unit.
8. the worldwide economic disaster.
9. the de- centralised nature of staffords town center.
10. maybe car parking fee's.
11. less and less people being employed in and around the town center, going to college there and generally less people to combine to make the 10% portion of pick up purchases, so crucial to retail.
12. the ineptitude of the council
13. not many independents and the lack of selling point as county town and market town.
14.buisness rates, buisness tax, inflation. but this is not unique to stafford.
15 i could go on and on and on, but stafford is on a collision course for oblivion.


as a solution, i would turn the guildhall into an entertainment center, with cinema, foodhall etc. turn the old co- op into t a new indoor market, and stop giving planning permission to outdoor retail parks. fire the people who design the road networks around the town and increase the incentive for people to enter stafford, without purely relying on retail which is the biggest casualty of a wordwide economic crisis.

simple..... now back to Mr brains faggots and scotch.

You cannot blame the council. They moved all staff to the centre to boost footfall.
 

tek-monkey

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Moved them from where? All I knew were already in town, the only real difference being we lost a car park.

I blame people having to all work, rather than one person getting to shop during the day. If you work 9-5 you arent spending money in town, supermarkets win mon-fri.
 

John Marwood

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The plight of Stafford, cannot be attributed to any specific reason, and its due to a perfect storm of numering factors that are all interlinked and are not wholly confined to the town or the surrounding areas.
1. The transport links into the town are woeful. linked to this is the numering retail parks, that clog up the roads on entry to the town, which further dimishes footfall. Also within this is the lack of bus station and public transport prices in gerneral.
2.The supermarkets are all on the edge of town, making them 'one stop locations', which in turn keeps people away from the town.
3.There is no entertainment or landmark in the town to entice people in. shops on there own cant fill the void and better cinemas, resterraunts, swimming pools, food courts etc would increase the likelyhood of footfall for the shops to feed off. only the town park in stafford should be proud of itself as a destination to spend time with people or enter the town.
4.internet shopping
5.Retail parks, and free parking at these sites.
6.old, outdated shops, that are the wrong size for modern retail units and put top end retailers off investing in the town.
7. the shops themselves sell outdated items, are overpriced, have not modernised, do not have unique selling points and struggle with the major supermarkets in town. the shops that have all or some of these aspects will survive, and prosper. Hmv relied on the same buisness model whilst the world changed around them, and millets had no unique selling point, selling overpriced gear in a woeful retail unit.
8. the worldwide economic disaster.
9. the de- centralised nature of staffords town center.
10. maybe car parking fee's.
11. less and less people being employed in and around the town center, going to college there and generally less people to combine to make the 10% portion of pick up purchases, so crucial to retail.
12. the ineptitude of the council
13. not many independents and the lack of selling point as county town and market town.
14.buisness rates, buisness tax, inflation. but this is not unique to stafford.
15 i could go on and on and on, but stafford is on a collision course for oblivion.


as a solution, i would turn the guildhall into an entertainment center, with cinema, foodhall etc. turn the old co- op into t a new indoor market, and stop giving planning permission to outdoor retail parks. fire the people who design the road networks around the town and increase the incentive for people to enter stafford, without purely relying on retail which is the biggest casualty of a wordwide economic crisis.

simple..... now back to Mr brains faggots and scotch.

I can't decide if you are studying script writing at Open University or a relic from the days of the Broadsheet Daily Express, either way, I was entertained by your strabismus, so welcome
 

jpphotography

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It is sad to see HMV going too but it isn't good value in there anymore. Can't remember the last time I got something from HMV Stafford. Would be good if we can get an independent or small scale music/film shop like head records.
 

Jonah

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The problem with HMV closing is that there will be nowhere in town to get different genres of films. I buy anime/animated films and I quite often just browse, then buy something which takes my eye after reading the sleeve notes.

Supermarkets don't stock anything like that so it will make it harder for me to buy.
 
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