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do you work at argos and ride a bike to work . survey
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Helen Goff
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Might get better response by Putting a note in the staff room
markpa12003
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I would expect Argos (and Stone Computers) to have a travel plan co-ordinator. The purpose of their role is to encourage the employers to car share or bike to work etc. They should also monitor travel to work arrangements. This should be done an annual basis, however I suspect this is probably wishful thinking.
As part of the planning application for Argos and Stone Computers a Travel Plan should have been submitted to SBC. SBC will also have a travel plan co-ordinator who should liaise regularly with their the employment operator to ensure that the travel plan is being adhered to. Within the Travel Plan they should have targets for the number of employees car sharing, cycling to work etc. In addition to this, it should also state how they propose to monitor travel to work arrangements and encourage more sustainable travel.
So in answer to your question Dlady, I would recommend that you review the Travel Plan that was submitted to the Council when the applications were submitted and find out who the travel plan co-ordinator is at Argos (and Stone Computers) and at SBC. The travel plan coordinators should be able to answer your question. If they are not able to, then they are not doing their job properly.
I don't know anybody that works at Argos, however I would suspect that they would have two shifts patterns; day and night shift. As such, they will be travelling to work at off peak times. Only the office staff will be travelling to and from work during peak travel times. Because I suspect Argos will have two shifts, which are likely to start early in the morning (6am) and finish late at night (10pm), I suspect very few shift workers would cycle to and from work. In light of this, you should also look at how many workers travel to work by public transport. This is likely to be a popular choice of transport because there is a bus stop nearby.
Finally, I assume your undertaking this research in order to fight the appeal at Ash Flats. In order for an Inspector to dismiss an appeal they must be of the opinion that the traffic impact of allowing the development would be significant.
Hope that helps.
As part of the planning application for Argos and Stone Computers a Travel Plan should have been submitted to SBC. SBC will also have a travel plan co-ordinator who should liaise regularly with their the employment operator to ensure that the travel plan is being adhered to. Within the Travel Plan they should have targets for the number of employees car sharing, cycling to work etc. In addition to this, it should also state how they propose to monitor travel to work arrangements and encourage more sustainable travel.
So in answer to your question Dlady, I would recommend that you review the Travel Plan that was submitted to the Council when the applications were submitted and find out who the travel plan co-ordinator is at Argos (and Stone Computers) and at SBC. The travel plan coordinators should be able to answer your question. If they are not able to, then they are not doing their job properly.
I don't know anybody that works at Argos, however I would suspect that they would have two shifts patterns; day and night shift. As such, they will be travelling to work at off peak times. Only the office staff will be travelling to and from work during peak travel times. Because I suspect Argos will have two shifts, which are likely to start early in the morning (6am) and finish late at night (10pm), I suspect very few shift workers would cycle to and from work. In light of this, you should also look at how many workers travel to work by public transport. This is likely to be a popular choice of transport because there is a bus stop nearby.
Finally, I assume your undertaking this research in order to fight the appeal at Ash Flats. In order for an Inspector to dismiss an appeal they must be of the opinion that the traffic impact of allowing the development would be significant.
Hope that helps.
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When I worked at the warehouse many years back it was 3 shifts of 8 hours, starting at 6am/2pm/10pm.
Glam
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I seem to recall same when my little soldier worked there too.
age'd parent
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Exactly correct, I did those shifts for 10 years.
markpa12003
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As part of the transport assessment that was submitted as part of the ash flats development somebody would have undertaken traffic counts. As part of this they would have considered Argos. The transport consultants are only concerned with the traffic impact at peak times because if they can demonstrate that the impact of the development at peak times is not significant / severe then the road should be okay at non peak times.
markpa12003
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I agree with you henryscat that it is the junction, rather than the amount of traffic likely to be generated, that is the most important consideration.
I'm surprised Network Rail have agreed to it. They are usually very precious about their bridges.
It would be worthwhile some body speaking to network rail to see if anything has been discussed with them and what their view is of the proposed modifications to the bridge.
I'm surprised Network Rail have agreed to it. They are usually very precious about their bridges.
It would be worthwhile some body speaking to network rail to see if anything has been discussed with them and what their view is of the proposed modifications to the bridge.
henryscat
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Looking at the drawing, the bridge is unaffected - the proposed right turn markings for Gravel Lane and the development are all off the bridge. It is still a hideously stupid proposal for a junction though.
markpa12003
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I have looked at the planning application and I can't see any highway access drawing (however I'm sure a drawing would have been submitted). I can only see a couple of indicative layout plans which shows the proposed location of the new junction.
Based on the indicative layout only, I would expect the road markings on the bridge to be altered. I would also expect there to be some changes to the bridge in order to get the required visibility splays.
I have reviewed Network Rail's response to the planning application and I'm surprised they made no comment on the proposed junction. They only objected to the scheme because of concerns about noise and construction impacts etc.
Based on the indicative layout only, I would expect the road markings on the bridge to be altered. I would also expect there to be some changes to the bridge in order to get the required visibility splays.
I have reviewed Network Rail's response to the planning application and I'm surprised they made no comment on the proposed junction. They only objected to the scheme because of concerns about noise and construction impacts etc.
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Anyone know why they haven't just put access off Ash Flats Lane where it would seem more natural and cheaper for the developers?
markpa12003
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I suspect it is because of one of the following reasons:-
* Developers / house builders prefer an access off a main road;
* Can't achieve the necessary visibility splays off Ash Flats Lane;
* Can't achieve an acceptable highway junction off Ash Flats Lane; and
* Landownership issues.
* Developers / house builders prefer an access off a main road;
* Can't achieve the necessary visibility splays off Ash Flats Lane;
* Can't achieve an acceptable highway junction off Ash Flats Lane; and
* Landownership issues.
True, but thats just the warehouse shift pattern. The Argos site also hosts a customer contact centre, which now has operates on flexible shifts (based on forecasted call volumes) as well as back office and support functions.
Dlady- What about those that would cycle if there were sufficient cycle paths on the route?
ChrisLewis
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Just for information Argos site isn't in SBC but is in South Staffordshire.
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Glam
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Nice legs ................
ChrisLewis
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My bike is in the shed - nice and safe!