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staffordjas

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It's around c£21K they start repaying for most grads with decent degrees an almost instant repayment start. I still find it hugely unpalatable that my daughter will lose a chunk of her salary to repay this debt, I find tuition fees themselves disgusting if I'm honest, and very devisive as many poorer kids ARE put off going to Uni as a result. I know a few who just don;t want 50K of debt around therir necks and so have chosen not to go. It is a choice, but I beleive all kids should have equal opportunity to go to Uni based on ability, not Mummy & Daddy's ability to part fund it :(

One of the reasons I wanted DD so close is that it retains the option of commuting for the 2nd or 3rd year, and it certainly sounds like this will be a very feasable option come her final year if she's only at Uni for 2 days. AS you so rightly say, £500 a month for 8 hours of lectures is dreadful. Having said that, Worcester sounds very expensive for student accomodation? £500?? Pretty sure a room in a shared house is about £200 plus bills in Liverpool, although halls will be more obviously!
I've noticed rooms advertised in Stafford lately at no where near as much as where son is! When he was in Halls in the first year he paid £5499 for the Sept-May (and beware...what they fail to tell you until move out time is that deductions are made from all the deposits for the shared halls if the last one moving out leaves a few crumbs in the kitchen etc even if it was spotless when your son/daughter moved out a few days earlier .... ) He did have one of the en-suite ones though, so more expensive. But even the cheapest ones with only a sink in the room weren't that much cheaper.

I realise now that he would have been better commuting this final year. I say 8 hours a week, but apparently it isn't compulsory for him to attend most of them as I was told this morning when having a moan at him for missing yet another one :mad: .
One module is done and dusted as they went on a field trip to the Alps in May for this 3rd years assignment that has now been handed in.
He has to work on his Dissitation on his own, with the occasional meetings with the lecturer to check plans and progress.
So he only has this one module left, which according to him is the same stuff on a Thursday and Friday lecture :hmm:


I must say I've only visited Liverpool the once, and thought it was a great place.
 

Wormella

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Places change over time, both for good and bad, I had a look at Liverpool before coming here in the mid '70s. It was the first time that I'd ever been there and it was truly shocking - it looked like the Luftwaffe had just left.

It was the first "Northern city" that I'd ever been to - I'd seen a few bomb-sites in London and Bristol, but the state that Liverpool was still in then just amazed me.

Obviously, a lot of the desolation was not really war damage, just industrial decay, but it gave the same impression.

Having gone back there after a decade a few week ago I was amazed how some areas had declined further - but the areas around the university Hardman St, Hope Street, Bold Street etc were buzzing but areas around our old stomping ground of the business district were just the worst.
 

Gramaisc

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Having gone back there after a decade a few week ago I was amazed how some areas had declined further - but the areas around the university Hardman St, Hope Street, Bold Street etc were buzzing but areas around our old stomping ground of the business district were just the worst.
I used to get the ferry from there to Dublin in the '70s, rather than face the nightmare of the A5 to Holyhead. There seemed to have been little progress of any sort. I haven't been there since 1980. Reports suggest that some of it has improved vastly, probably after the Toxteth riots, I suspect....


For the sake of balance, I also had a look at Portsmouth and Nottingham.

Portsmouth just seemed a nasty place, hard to explain it briefly - Nottingham was just dull.
 

Withnail

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Portsmouth just seemed a nasty place, hard to explain it briefly...
Oi! That's my Alma Mater you're talking about.

Great Town v Gown v Navy v Town v Gown (and around and around) dynamic that meant violence was never too far away. What's not to like?

The Hard may once have been difficult to explain, but it has gone all soft now, 'Gentrification' has even reached as far as Pompey. And without the Tricorn there is now even less to see.
 

John Marwood

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Oi! That's my Alma Mater you're talking about.

Great Town v Gown v Navy v Town v Gown (and around and around) dynamic that meant violence was never too far away. What's not to like?

The Hard may once have been difficult to explain, but it has gone all soft now, 'Gentrification' has even reached as far as Pompey. And without the Tricorn there is now even less to see.


Fratton Park backwards
 

EasMid

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I wonder if the new owners will put some gigs on like in the 70's to revive the place
I never went to the Poly but spent many a pi55ed or chemically enhanced night there seeing some really good acts.
I still bear the mental scars of seeing the lead singer of a band walking naked across the stage with a burning, rolled up newspaper clenched in the cheeks of his arse. I cant remember which band (no chemicals involved that night!) but it could have been Trapeze.
 

John Marwood

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I wonder if the new owners will put some gigs on like in the 70's to revive the place
I never went to the Poly but spent many a pi55ed or chemically enhanced night there seeing some really good acts.
I still bear the mental scars of seeing the lead singer of a band walking naked across the stage with a burning, rolled up newspaper clenched in the cheeks of his arse. I cant remember which band (no chemicals involved that night!) but it could have been Trapeze.


Got to love Cannock
 

kyoto49

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Having gone back there after a decade a few week ago I was amazed how some areas had declined further - but the areas around the university Hardman St, Hope Street, Bold Street etc were buzzing but areas around our old stomping ground of the business district were just the worst.

To be fair I have yet to visit a large city anywhere in the world that doesn't have a crappy area, or many crappy areas. it seems to be 'required' in big cities for a reason unknown to me. One can only hope that the gentrification Liverpool has benefitted from continues.
 

John Marwood

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To be fair I have yet to visit a large city anywhere in the world that doesn't have a crappy area, or many crappy areas. it seems to be 'required' in big cities for a reason unknown to me. One can only hope that the gentrification Liverpool has benefitted from continues.

Really?

You approve of Gentrification?

:help:
 

kyoto49

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Really?

You approve of Gentrification?

:help:

It depends what you mean by gentrification. If you mean developing old run down industrial areas by keeping the buildings and converting them in to small independant stores and eateries with apartments on the upper floors, then yes, I approve. If it's done how Stafford Borough Council insist on doin it by razing anything of architectural merit to the ground and have it replaced by modern sh*te, then no, I don't!
 

John Marwood

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It depends what you mean by gentrification. If you mean developing old run down industrial areas by keeping the buildings and converting them in to small independant stores and eateries with apartments on the upper floors, then yes, I approve. If it's done how Stafford Borough Council insist on doin it by razing anything of architectural merit to the ground and have it replaced by modern sh*te, then no, I don't!


I suggest you ignore my definition and look at what is the general opinion
 

John Marwood

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Why dont you approve of gentrification ?

I'm not a fan of wiki bit this is their definition

Gentrification is a process of renovation and revival of deteriorated urban neighborhoods by means of influx of more affluent residents, which results in increased property values and the displacing of lower-income families and small businesses.
 

Wormella

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To be fair I have yet to visit a large city anywhere in the world that doesn't have a crappy area, or many crappy areas. it seems to be 'required' in big cities for a reason unknown to me. One can only hope that the gentrification Liverpool has benefitted from continues.

No, it seemed to be in decline - developments promised 10 years ago no where to be seen. Which isn't to say it won't be a great place to be a university student, but there seems to be a substantial brain drain away from it for graduates.
 
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