Help with music player thing

Doctor

Well-Known Forumite
I bought myself one of these modern music player devices - not an MP3 players as I play MWAs so what ever you want to call it anyway it plays MWA files and turns them into lovely music. It's made by logik and whilst it works well I can't make it play albums with the tracks in the right order. It plays them alphabetically. Does anyone know if I'm missing a menu (I've only just found the menu that gets me to play albums after buying it in March) or if there's something I can do. I tryed renaming tracks but it must read info stored in the actual MWA file. Any ideas, thoughts would be welcome.

It's this one by the way
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/Audio/Portable+Audio/MP3+Players/Logik/2GB+ORBIT+Black/589714

Thanks
 

Andreas Rex

Banned for smiling
Doctor said:
I bought myself one of these modern music player devices - not an MP3 players as I play MWAs so what ever you want to call it anyway it plays MWA files and turns them into lovely music. It's made by logik and whilst it works well I can't make it play albums with the tracks in the right order. It plays them alphabetically. Does anyone know if I'm missing a menu (I've only just found the menu that gets me to play albums after buying it in March) or if there's something I can do. I tryed renaming tracks but it must read info stored in the actual MWA file. Any ideas, thoughts would be welcome.

It's this one by the way
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/Audio/Portable+Audio/MP3+Players/Logik/2GB+ORBIT+Black/589714

Thanks
It could be the way that your files are labelled on yer PC before you transfer them across....is it ID3 tags etc?? I'm not too hot on that kind of thing, but it's worth checking. I use winamp and can right click on a track and choose 'View file info', and it lets me change the track name, artist, number etc. Even though the track may show as '1 - Artist - Track name' etc in a desktop media player, it doesn't necessarily mean that the track would be recognised as track 1 by your new gadget. Worth a try...
 

db

#chaplife
Doctor said:
I bought myself one of these modern music player devices - not an MP3 players as I play MWAs so what ever you want to call it anyway it plays MWA files and turns them into lovely music. It's made by logik and whilst it works well I can't make it play albums with the tracks in the right order. It plays them alphabetically. Does anyone know if I'm missing a menu (I've only just found the menu that gets me to play albums after buying it in March) or if there's something I can do. I tryed renaming tracks but it must read info stored in the actual MWA file. Any ideas, thoughts would be welcome.

It's this one by the way
http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/product/seo/Audio/Portable+Audio/MP3+Players/Logik/2GB+ORBIT+Black/589714

Thanks
erm, that is an mp3 player :?: the clue is in the name - "Logik 2GB ORBIT Black 2GB MP3 Player"

when you say MWA i assume you mean WMA files (which is a kind of windows version of mp3).. are you sure this particular player is compatible with WMA files?

i've never seen/used that particular mp3 player, but i would imagine it's a simple case of plugging it into a spare USB socket, waiting for windows to recognise it as a removeable drive, then drag music files to it..

you might have to look at converting your music library to mp3 for it to work.. and to save yourself the bother in future, do the following:

· Open Windows Media Player
· Go to the Tools menu and choose Options
· Choose the Rip Music tab
· Change the Format to "mp3"

now you are ripping in industry-standard mp3 instead of Windows-proprietary WMA format :)
 

Doctor

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Me not calling it MP3 player is me being "format correct". MP3s are a much poorer compression algorithm and produce much poorer sound quality - everyone just assumes they want MP3 files because everyone calls them MP3 players (like everyone calling vaccuum cleaners Hoovers). I'm usually not a fan of Micrsoft and woould choose Apple when possible but WMA is just sounds better and produces smaller files too! The box it came in didn't calld it an MP3 player and mentions a string of file extensions that it can play.

I'll have a go at the re-naming through Media Player though as I don't have winamp (works computer, no control on software). I had seen a thing that said using the sync would work but it didn't. Hey hum.
 

db

#chaplife
Doctor said:
Me not calling it MP3 player is me being "format correct". MP3s are a much poorer compression algorithm and produce much poorer sound quality - everyone just assumes they want MP3 files because everyone calls them MP3 players (like everyone calling vaccuum cleaners Hoovers). I'm usually not a fan of Micrsoft and woould choose Apple when possible but WMA is just sounds better and produces smaller files too! The box it came in didn't calld it an MP3 player and mentions a string of file extensions that it can play.
that's not strictly accurate.. the generic term is "mp3 player", and what you have bought is an mp3 player.. the fact it can play other formats (aac, wma, ogg, mpg, flac, etc.) is incidental.. in fact, the world's most successful "mp3 player" - the ipod - doesn't use mp3 at all (it uses aac)..

also, don't believe microsoft's marketing hyperbole that wma is "better" than mp3.. mp3 is a completely open format, which has been established since 1990 and constantly developed since then, by thousands of third parties as well as the original Fraunhofer institute.. the framework allows for a lot of flexibility during the encoding stage, but has very strict controls over the decoding.. this means that as technology improves, the compression algorithms and resulting sound output gets better and better, whilst still remaining true to the original spec and compatible with all players.. wma, on the other hand, is just microsoft wanting a piece of the action, and wanting to lock people in to the windows platform..

Doctor said:
I'll have a go at the re-naming through Media Player though as I don't have winamp (works computer, no control on software). I had seen a thing that said using the sync would work but it didn't. Hey hum.
renaming in what way? as in, renaming the file extensions? i think that will probably just confuse the player, if anything..

sounds silly, but have you read the manual and followed it to the letter? some of these things have very strange and convulted ways of working.. i consider myself reasonably tech-savvy, but i struggled with my mum's ipod shuffle for days (literally) before i got it going - they can be a bit counter-intuitive sometimes!
 

db

#chaplife
Doctor said:
It's made by logik and whilst it works well I can't make it play albums with the tracks in the right order. It plays them alphabetically.
sorry - i posted my original response last night whilst drunk, and clearly didn't read your question at all lol.. i thought you were having problems in general, but now i see that it's working fine bar this track-order niggle.. damn my haste!

it's possible that there is no meta info embedded in the WMA files, or that your player is stripping it out/ignoring it.. this would cause the files to simply play in alphabetical order.. check the file properties in windows media player (or your player of choice) and see if the meta data is in there (artist name, album, track number, etc.)..
 

FooFighter

Well-Known Forumite
I had a similar problem with my cheap generic player.

It only happens when i add the individual tracks .
If i add the folder it groups the tracks ok

This may be quicker in the short term but Bobbys meta data advice is ,imo, on the money
 

Doctor

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dirtybobby said:
sounds silly, but have you read the manual and followed it to the letter?
Would have been my first action if it had come with one!

I can just hear the difference between MP3 and WMA - I tryed it out when I first started ripping my CDs.
 

Jheych

Wasps - feel my wrath!
Ey oop doctor dude , I could be wrong but I think Girovski had a very similar problem to yours when he transferred a zillion files about the place from one player to another etc . . He seems to have cracked it now and everything is as should be .I think he downloaded some firmware or something for the unit I might suggest that you give him a bell ..as it does not look as though the general opinions "fountains" of MP3 knowledge is helping much in this thread ..alternatively give Willing sinner a shout on skype if he doesn't know then trust me no one does !
 
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