Holly Bush, Salt.

Mudgie

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As probably the most unwelcoming of the 211 pubs I used last year I'm not surprised.
 
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McPhee

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Anyone daft enough to take this on is going to face an uphill battle.

The rent is ridiculous for a pub of this size (and tied too!). There's no central heating, so keeping the place warm in Winter must be perilously expensive. Also, local competition is stiff. And anyone taking it on is going to spend their days being told how their efforts pale in comparison to the latter years of Geoff's tenure.

For anyone in the market for a pub, there are better options out there.

I can only see this going one way in the long-run - a permanent closure. Someone buying it and turning it into a home is (IMO) the best anyone can hope for as it would at least mean the building doesn't fall into ruin.
 
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Mudgie

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McPhee said:
Anyone daft enough to take this on is going to face an uphill battle.

The rent is ridiculous for a pub of this size (and tied too!). There's no central heating, so keeping the place warm in Winter must be perilously expensive. Also, local competition is stiff. And anyone taking it on is going to spend their days being told how their efforts pale in comparison to the latter years of Geoff's tenure.

For anyone in the market for a pub, there are better options out there.

I can only see this going one way in the long-run - a permanent closure. Someone buying it and turning it into a home is (IMO) the best anyone can hope for as it would at least mean the building doesn't fall into ruin.
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Maybe, but the Hollands paid a lot for the rent and did well there so there's surely the possibility that someone else could do the same.
But, yes "local competition is stiff", particularly from the Saracens Head and the Woolpack.
 
Theresa Green

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Mudgie said:
Maybe, but the Hollands paid a lot for the rent and did well there so there's surely the possibility that someone else could do the same.
But, yes "local competition is stiff", particularly from the Saracens Head and the Woolpack.
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Did well?

You saw the accounts then?

Full pubs not make a tidy profit if overheads are ridiculous

Just as the Black Country Ales manager role leaves almost nothing to live on from wet sales because you are effectively self employed but not able to acquire products independently of your ‘employer’







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Mudgie

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Theresa Green said:
Did well?

You saw the accounts then?

Full pubs not make a tidy profit if overheads are ridiculous

Just as the Black Country Ales manager role leaves almost nothing to live on from wet sales because you are effectively self employed but not able to acquire products independently of your ‘employer’







A Mug
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No, I didn't see the accounts but my comment was from it being popular and busy during their tenure, until poor health towards the end.
That formular has got Black Country Ales up to fifty pubs. Terry seems happy enough and maybe others are just pleased to have a free home.
 
Theresa Green

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Mudgie said:
No, I didn't see the accounts but my comment was from it being popular and busy during their tenure, until poor health towards the end.
That formular has got Black Country Ales up to fifty pubs. Terry seems happy enough and maybe others are just pleased to have a free home.
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The ‘free’ home is a factor I’m sure

Is this the Terry that locks himself out of his car?
 

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Noah

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Apparently currently closed while Admiral Taverns look for a new tenant. Now apparently the second licensed pub in the country dating from the 12th century. Pity that licensing as such wasn't introduced until the 17th century and the pub building isn't much older.
 
Feed The Goat

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Noah said:
Apparently currently closed while Admiral Taverns look for a new tenant. Now apparently the second licensed pub in the country dating from the 12th century. Pity that licensing as such wasn't introduced until the 17th century and the pub building isn't much older.
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Funny that, I have had a drink in about half a dozen different versions of the uk's oldest inn
 
Noah

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Yes, I've had drinks in quite a few of the oldest pubs in the country, some "dating back to the 11th century". Most genuinely old pubs date back to the seventeenth century, the older ones are inns which originated as monastic guest houses until Henry VIII privatised them.
 
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