Keith Allen Meets Nick Griffin - show channel 4

KencoPlenco

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just finished watching the show Keith Allen Meets Nick Griffin. All I can say about this is that Nick Griffin has got lots of seriously messed up views and issues, What do you guys think?
 

Gramaisc

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I haven't seen it, but there can often be a lot of confusion about in these circles. The BNP candidate for the Cannock Chase constituency in the last General Election rejoiced in the name of Terence Majorowicz...
 

KencoPlenco

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I haven't seen it, but there can often be a lot of confusion about in these circles. The BNP candidate for the Cannock Chase constituency in the last General Election rejoiced in the name of Terence Majorowicz...

I thought it was a woman that was a candidate for the Cannock area
 

Alan B'Stard

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Just watched it, felt it a little bit lacklustre.

I did enjoy the clips from 1958 of the Tory racist and particularly enjoyed the Muslamic clip at the end.

I was expecting more from the programme, but not too sure what.

I felt it humanised Griffin a little too much rather than show him up for the complete and utter scumbag that he is.
 

KencoPlenco

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The only thing I found interesting about that show is that Keith Allen is Lilly Allen Father Didn't know that before :xd:
 

Gramaisc

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SO Its not a woman, I through Terence was a woman name or at least a unisex name :xd:
Terry could be short for Terence (M) or Theresa(F), although Terri would be the short form for a female in particular, usually anyway, especially in America..
 

My Name is URL

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I felt it humanised Griffin a little too much rather than show him up for the complete and utter scumbag that he is.

But thats what I liked about it to be honest... i'm far from a Nazi sympathiser, but at the end of the day if they are a legitimate political party (which they are) then I would expect the same courtesy to be shown to them as to any other political party.

I don't agree with the majority of what he says, but then I don't agree with most of what most political parties say. That doesn't mean I want some jumped up TV presenter making people look idiots just because they don't agree with the person. I also think Keith Allen was very funny. The two moments that stood out were not being allowed bright lights in the European Parliment, but you could play a Ukulele, and secondly how Griffin locked himself in his office rather than just speak to him and say he wasn't prepared to do an interview.
 

Hetairoi

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I thought Kieth Allen went out of his way to be polite and in doing so missed an oppourtunity to ask some really searching questions.

Saying that I don't agree with the aggressive questioning that a lot of interviewers adopt, there is no need to be rude.

I thought Nick Griffin came over quite well but he does seem to be obsessed with Islam when there are far more pressing problems that need addressing.
 

Hetairoi

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Just remembered the most interesting part of the program was finding out that the only place in Europe that you can still smoke indoors in a public place is in the EU parliament building, talk about one law for us and another for 'them'!
 

Gramaisc

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Just remembered the most interesting part of the program was finding out that the only place in Europe that you can still smoke indoors in a public place is in the EU parliament building, talk about one law for us and another for 'them'!
Smoking bans are a result of national legislation. You can still smoke in the Czech Republic, just the same as it was here before the current legislation was brought into force. Probably a few other EU member states as well, I imagine.
 

Alan B'Stard

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I think that shows you are just as bigoted as he is!

I hardly think so.

My view of Nazi Nick is based upon all that I have read and seen about him and his political outlook, it is not based upon the colour of his skin, his ethnic heritage or what imaginary friend he choses to believe in.

Have you watched it yet?

I'd imagine you would really enjoy it.
 

Gramaisc

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Isn't the done thing to just say what you 'imagine' to be the case as a statement of fact?

Or am i imagining things?
I stated a fact, i.e. that the position in the one mainland EU country that I have direct experience of is the same as it was here, before the situation changed in England and Wales. The use of the word 'Probably' might have been a clue to the fact that I was surmising, but hadn't checked, that the situation in Bulgaria, Romania, etc., is likely also to remain as it was in the old days here.

The point was that smoking legislation is, currently, at least, still a matter for national governments and not a result of an EU directive. To state that, if that is what was stated in the programme, that the EU Parliament building is the only public building where you can still smoke indoors in Europe, is not true. It is possible that it might be the only place in Belgium, though. Who knows.
 

Hetairoi

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Yes I watched it last night and was very disappointed!

I do agree with some things the BNP stand for but not everything, contrary to what you think!

And before you ask I agree with the BNP that we should leave the EU and stop the vast majority of immigration but I disagree with their demonisation of all Muslims and their support for nuclear power.
 

Hetairoi

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I stated a fact, i.e. that the position in the one mainland EU country that I have direct experience of is the same as it was here, before the situation changed in England and Wales. The use of the word 'Probably' might have been a clue to the fact that I was surmising, but hadn't checked, that the situation in Bulgaria, Romania, etc., is likely also to remain as it was in the old days here.

The point was that smoking legislation is, currently, at least, still a matter for national governments and not a result of an EU directive. To state that, if that is what was stated in the programme, that the EU Parliament building is the only public building where you can still smoke indoors in Europe, is not true. It is possible that it might be the only place in Belgium, though. Who knows.

My fault here I took Keith Allens word for it that the EU Parliament was the only place in Europe that you can smoke in a public place indoors, it sounds like he was wrong.
 
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