Leave or Remain?

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Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burden'd air;
Hungry clouds swag on the deep.

Once meek, and in a perilous path,
The just man kept his course along
The vale of death.
Roses are planted where thorns grow.
And on the barren heath
Sing the honey bees.

Then the perilous path was planted:
And a river, and a spring
On every cliff and tomb;
And on the bleached bones
Red clay brought forth.

Till the villain left the paths of ease,
To walk in perilous paths, and drive
The just man into barren climes.

Now the sneaking serpent walks
In mild humility.
And the just man rages in the wilds
Where lions roam.

Rintrah roars & shakes his fires in the burden'd air;
Hungry clouds swag on the deep.
 
basil

basil

don't mention the blinds
Oh dear, it all seems to be going wrong,

The EU will not be fuc#ed over my the leader of a minority government.

The current administration is undoubtedly prepared to take the country into another recession

The PM has now said that following a 'no deal'
current EU citizens will not have any 'security of abode'


Oh dearie dearie me......
 
basil

basil

don't mention the blinds
Brexit means Recession

May, Gove, Johnson, Rees-Fogg, Fox, Davis, Farage,

The households of the above will be totally, completely, absolutely, unaffected by March 2019

Hurrah Hurrah........
 
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basil said:
Brexit means Recession

May, Gove, Johnson, Rees-Fogg, Fox, Davis, Farage,

Hurrah Hurrah........
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You forgot Peter North

For the tl;dr brigade - and i quote...

In the first year or so we are going to lose a lot of manufacturing. Virtually all JIT export manufacturing will fold inside a year...

Initially we will see food prices plummet but this won't last.

Once food importers have crushed all UK competition they will gradually raise their prices, simply because they can.

... we can probably expect the service sector to take a big hit thus eliminating all the jobs that might provide a supplementary income.

Across the board we will see prices rising. There will be some serendipitous benefits but nothing that offsets the mass job losses. We will see a lot of foreign investment dry up and banking services will move to the EU. Dublin and Frankfurt.

All in all we are looking at serious austerity as it will take a few years at least to rebuild our trade relations with third countries. If we go down the path of unilateral trade liberalisation then we will probably find it hard to strike new deals.

Meanwhile, since tax receipts will be way down we can expect major cuts... to the forces and a number of Army redundancies... we can expect another round of cuts to council services. They will probably raise council tax to cope with it.

After years of the left bleating about austerity they are about to find out what it actually means.

Interesting though will be how rapidly people adapt to it and habits will change, thus so will the culture. I expect cheap consumables from China will stay at low prices and they manage to circumvent the taxes and import controls anyway.

Basically it will wipe out the cosseted lower middle class and remind them that they are just as dispensable as the rest of us.

We can the expect to see a major rationalisation of the NHS and what functions it will perform. It will be more of a skeleton service than ever. I expect they will have trouble staffing it. Economic conditions more than any immigration control will bring numbers down to a trickle.

Unemployment will be back to where it was in the 80's.

Anyone who considers themselves "Just about managing" right now will look upon this time as carefree prosperity. There are going to be a lot of very pissed off people

*Can i at this point remind everyone that this is a Parliamentarian, a proponent of Brexit, a citizen that has the best of our interests in mind*

So to continue to quote -

Eventually things will settle down and we will get used to the new order of things.

I expect to see a cultural revolution where young people actually start doing surprising and reckless things again rather than becoming tedious hipsters drinking energy drinks in pop-up cereal bar book shops or whatever it is they do these days.

Effectively we are looking at a ten year recession.

I'm of the view that in recent years people have become increasingly spoiled and self-indulgent, inventing psychological problems for themselves in the absence of any real challenges or imperatives to grow as people. I have always primarily thought Brexit would be a reboot on British politics and culture. In a lot of ways it will bring back much of what is missing. A little austerity might very well make us less frivolous.

Those who expected things to improve will be disappointed.

This is not the voice of some 'remoaner' -

I think, given the opportunity to vote again I would still vote to leave. Eventually it gets to a point where any change will do. I prefer an uncertain future to the certainty I was looking at.

Read it and weep.
 
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