Local .net training courses?

[tek-monkey]

I could do with learning .net, too much of the software I need to use at work lately is going that way and my innability to understand it is annoying! Does anyone know of somewhere local(ish) that runs courses? I'm a classic ASP man myself, with JS/AJAX to do the back and forth stuff, but I've never written a .net app in my life.

Also, is there anyone here that does .net and fancies a bit of freelance work? No promises, just an idea til I can get up to speed.

 

[MyCult]

Tek - given where you work I find it strange you asking this question on the forum.

 

[tek-monkey]

There is nobody here that can teach me it, the IT courses here don't really cover anything in the amount of detail I need. Its not til you get to uni that you'll learn it in any depth, and even its fairly basic. Unfortunately I need someone that can teach me to actually use it though, not just to pass an exam

 

[Kickstart]

Hi

Are you using ASP .NET for web development, or are you using it for desktop / handheld app?

There are free versions of Visual Studio that you can download from MS. They are a bit restricted, but worth it for a play.

All the best

Keith

 

[The Stafford Beast]

Which other languages do you know? ASP.NET comes in a few flavours - VB and C# being the most prevalent. I taught myself with scrounging a few example applications and peering through the source code to see what's what.

If you like Visual/GUI-based programming, then it can be a lot easier, but I find that when I want to have some control over it, it can get a bit dirty. When you interface with databases, things can get a bit complicated if you don't know the jargon. Writing SQL in .NET scripts is a bit obsolete now too. Everything seems pretty procedural.

I'd teach you, but I'm 100% loaded for the foreseeable future

 

[tek-monkey]

Thanks for the replies, I've found a local course now at Wolvo science park, and shall be booking for March.

I think the problem really lies with development time. We're always pretty busy, and have to react to problems, so being able to section off a few days without interruptions is nigh on impossible! The course I've found though is 3 days, and the trainer is happy to help you out afterwards too, so hopefully this will be ideal.

 

[UltraSBM]

...I'd teach you, but I'm 100% loaded for the foreseeable future

Well Mr Beast, does this mean you have some overflow work to pass over?

 

[The Stafford Beast]

Some Limited company work of the Initially Hosted kind? Thought you'd be busy with that yourself

 

[Gramaisc]

Ultra's Bum is alive?...

And I've seen the Beast when he's 100% loaded - it's not nice..

 

[Kickstart]

If you like Visual/GUI-based programming, then it can be a lot easier, but I find that when I want to have some control over it, it can get a bit dirty. When you interface with databases, things can get a bit complicated if you don't know the jargon.

Oh yes. For ASP trying to code around the things it does to make life easy makes anything slightly non standard 10 times more difficult and trying to code Javascript to do things with the pages generated (with seemingly random ids) is a pain. Also, if you land up using SQL Server and the database tools that come with visual studio you land up with fairly limited control, and if you are debugging it tries to make it difficult to access the database while debugging. Add in trying to find methods of classes buried down in about 15 levels of libraries.

I do prefer plan ASP to the .NET variety (although far prefer php), same for VB6 over VB .NET.

All the best

Keith

 

[UltraSBM]

Ultra's Bum is alive?...

And I've seen the Beast when he's 100% loaded - it's not nice..

Alive...kicking...and burgled on Monday night!

 

[UltraSBM]

...
I do prefer plan ASP to the .NET variety (although far prefer php), same for VB6 over VB .NET.

As a VB6'r from 1997 - 2008 I can tell you it was very hard to change over to .NET, but I knew I had to.

There are some things I really miss about "Classic VB", eg Object's default values, and the ease of the File System Object...but now when I go back, I am so used to Visual Studio 2010's IDE that it's archaic!

Take one example - Icons in a menu on a form.
In VB6 you have to hack it in. It takes ages and it is so fiddly.
In .NET you just drag and drop. That's what sold me

Happy .NET'ing!!!!

 

[bobbles31]

I made the switch about 8 years ago from asp/vb 6 to c# and asp.net. Though this past year I have been using the mvc3 framework with razor. Oh how things have changed. Razor is ridiculously easy once you wrap your head round it. I have seen ruby but never had cause to use it.

To get back on topic if tek or anyone has any queries and hasn't discovered (or like myself is too shy) to post to stack overflow I would be happy to answer them as best I can.

I am a freelancer working from home in Stafford so can generally answer stuff through the day. Unless I am snowed under or have to go and learn the answer myself.