Love Music Hate Racism

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
Andreas Rex said:
Righty ho then...i'm pleased to say that Stafford Forum would be absolutely delighted to donate the £50 required to secure the booking of the Gatehouse for Love Music Hate Racism!

Lunar Scorpion: can you please send a PM to Admin to arrange the payment, then you can get booked up asap!
Brilliant! I can get all artsy fartsy on MySpace soon...

Since this is officially a Forum thing, which is best?
1. Stafford Love Music Hate Racism (Stafford LMHR)
2. Love Music Hate Racism Stafford (LMHR Stafford)
 

Admin

You there; behave!
Staff member
Yes, as Andreas has already stated, Stafford Forum would be delighted to offer help to get this thing under way :)

Lunar Scorpion said:
Since this is officially a Forum thing, which is best?
1. Stafford Love Music Hate Racism (Stafford LMHR)
2. Love Music Hate Racism Stafford (LMHR Stafford)
How about Stafford Forum presents Love Music Hate Racism? Or is that too much of a mouthful?
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
Admin said:
Yes, as Andreas has already stated, Stafford Forum would be delighted to offer help to get this thing under way :)

Lunar Scorpion said:
Since this is officially a Forum thing, which is best?
1. Stafford Love Music Hate Racism (Stafford LMHR)
2. Love Music Hate Racism Stafford (LMHR Stafford)
How about Stafford Forum presents Love Music Hate Racism? Or is that too much of a mouthful?
It was a tongue twister even just saying it in my head...
 

db

#chaplife
surely the actual event is just going to be called "Love Music Hate Racism" anyway? if you wanted to differentiate it from the national campaign (e.g. for facebook/myspaz purposes) then i think "Stafford Forum presents..." looks ok :up:

asks sofa's advice - he's got a decent head for marketing/promotion if i remember rightly..
 

db

#chaplife
Lunar Scorpion said:
On the poster it will be Stafford Forum presents anyway (or something like that) - I need something short and snappy for MySpace/Facebook purposes, etc.
the point is it can't be short and snappy - it's already 4 words long before you start adding more to it! lol

i personally don't think "Love Music Hate Racism Stafford" is any better or worse than "Stafford Forum presents Love Music Hate Racism".. obviously, you might disagree, but you asked for the opinion of other's so there's mine :P
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
If you look on MySpace, every single one I've seen is some combination of LMHR or the full version and the place name, possibly with a hyphen. I have never seen another event such as this where the promoter promotes themselves in the title! The event is about LMHR not Stafford Forum, hence it is never going to be "Stafford Forum presents...".
 

db

#chaplife
Lunar Scorpion said:
If you look on MySpace, every single one I've seen is some combination of LMHR or the full version and the place name, possibly with a hyphen. I have never seen another event such as this where the promoter promotes themselves in the title!
erm, i'm willing to bet that you have.. that's the point of someone sponsoring/promoting an event - they pay money to have their name associated with it.. like when you go to a festival and it's "Mean Fiddler presents..." or whatever..

Lunar Scorpion said:
The event is about LMHR not Stafford Forum
correct; if that were the case it would be "LMHR presents Stafford Forum," but as you say LMHR is the event and Stafford Forum is promoting it - thus "Stafford Forum presents Love Music Hate Racism".. anyway:

Lunar Scorpion said:
it is never going to be "Stafford Forum presents...".
why ask for the input of others if you have already made you mind up?? lol..

i'm not fussed what you call it.. i understand why you wouldn't want to called it "Stafford Forum presents..." and that's fine, i just think the argument you've presented (pun not intended) is flawed..
 

Astro Boy

Pocket Rocket
If the forum is giving up some dosh then it should damn well have its name in it. I know, LS, that it feels like the forum's jumping on a bandwagon but hey, I'd rather be associated with it than not - as bastions of Stafford town and the surrounding area we need to project our image, which certainly is not bigoted and narrow minded.

We need to be seen doing our part. If this is a nationwide thing and other people are doing events for LMHR we need people to know that this is Stafford Forums contribution to the most worthwhile cause. Especially if this thing is organised to counter the BNPs interest in Stafford (the first line of the first post in this thread!) and show those silly little shisters that Stafford and its people can do without them - represented by the forum, a not for profit collection of Staffordians (not politicians / bureaucrats) interested in keeping their area free and righteous baby x
 

db

#chaplife
wow, a very impassioned response! thanks for your support, jchiltz :)

jchiltz said:
If this is a nationwide thing and other people are doing events for LMHR we need people to know that this is Stafford Forums contribution to the most worthwhile cause.
good point!
 

Andreas Rex

Banned for smiling
I'm with dirtybobby on this one...'Stafford Forum presents Love Music Hate Racism' doesn't suggest that it's a forum event in any way, more that the event is sponsored and supported by Stafford Forum. This thread has doubtless already attracted lots of interest, and i'm sure it'll continue to be a sounding board for ideas and a place to advertise who's playing and what's actually going on. I'm sure this has no bearing on the offer of sponsorship, but it certainly makes sense to me..
 

Admin

You there; behave!
Staff member
As Andreas as said, it's not a deal-breaker, but I would have thought surely this is the point of sponsorship? Take, for instance, the Coca-Cola Football League - Coca-Cola don't play the football, and are in fact not involved with it in any way, shape, or form - but they support the league financially and in turn they become the "hosts" of the games :)

Please remember that Stafford Forum is not a profit making endeavour. Everything you see here is provided free of charge, we have no advertising of any kind to generate revenue, etc. The money The Forum has offered to LMHR has come from donations from Forum members, primarily rich upsetter through the magic of his Stafford Forum T-Shirts, and as such it would be nice to see a little generosity in return :D

If this becomes an official Stafford Forum event, I will most likely do a broadcast e-mail to every member letting them know the details. So that means not only will you get our financial backing, but direct-mail promotion to nearly 500 people!
 

Lunar Scorpion

Anarchy in the UK
dirtybobby said:
that's the point of someone sponsoring/promoting an event - they pay money to have their name associated with it.. like when you go to a festival and it's "Mean Fiddler presents..." or whatever..
jchiltz said:
If the forum is giving up some dosh then it should damn well have its name in it. I know, LS, that it feels like the forum's jumping on a bandwagon but hey, I'd rather be associated with it than not - as bastions of Stafford town and the surrounding area we need to project our image, which certainly is not bigoted and narrow minded.

We need to be seen doing our part. If this is a nationwide thing and other people are doing events for LMHR we need people to know that this is Stafford Forums contribution to the most worthwhile cause. Especially if this thing is organised to counter the BNPs interest in Stafford (the first line of the first post in this thread!) and show those silly little shisters that Stafford and its people can do without them - represented by the forum, a not for profit collection of Staffordians (not politicians / bureaucrats) interested in keeping their area free and righteous baby x
Admin said:
As Andreas as said, it's not a deal-breaker, but I would have thought surely this is the point of sponsorship? Take, for instance, the Coca-Cola Football League - Coca-Cola don't play the football, and are in fact not involved with it in any way, shape, or form - but they support the league financially and in turn they become the "hosts" of the games smile

Please remember that Stafford Forum is not a profit making endeavour. Everything you see here is provided free of charge, we have no advertising of any kind to generate revenue, etc. The money The Forum has offered to LMHR has come from donations from Forum members, primarily rich upsetter through the magic of his Stafford Forum T-Shirts, and as such it would be nice to see a little generosity in return big_smile

If this becomes an official Stafford Forum event, I will most likely do a broadcast e-mail to every member letting them know the details. So that means not only will you get our financial backing, but direct-mail promotion to nearly 500 people!
Firstly, this isn't a festival, it is a charity (I use the term loosely, although I am fairly sure that it is legally a charity) / awareness raising event.

The name 'Stafford Forum' will be associated with the event - if you look on www.lovemusichateracism.com they have a poster/flyer generator, which asks for the event organiser (i.e. Stafford Forum - to be honest, it was always at the back of my mind to have it this way as I do not feel entirely comfortable with having my name there) and if we don't use that then I would dedicate even more of the poster to advertising Stafford Forum.

I will be linking to the forum via MySpace and Facebook, and mention it lots on the night and otherwise - i.e. this event would not have been possible without the generosity of... (Which is true, because I am as skint as anything - £50 is more than a week's income for me!)

I am not making any promises, but as there will be a stall with UAF/LMHR merch I would be more than willing for Stafford Forum T-Shirts to be sold at the event (I was already considering selling band stuff e.g. CDs too) - possibly with a slight mark up in price/small slice of the profit to go to the actual organisation (and possibly some of it will go to a Stafford Branch of Unite Against Fascism).

Andreas Rex said:
Entry fee on the night: £5 (i think)
Probably, although if all tickets are sold then about half that price would cover the costs (just about), plus I was thinking of an NUS discount - so I may well introduce a special Stafford Forum discount. ;) (Again, no promises - but I don't see why not!)

dirtybobby said:
why ask for the input of others if you have already made you mind up?? lol..
I am sorry if I did not make it clear that I was asking which of the two options people preferred!

PS - Sorry also for such a long post!
 

Astro Boy

Pocket Rocket
Lunar Scorpion Events in association with Stafford Forum present Love Music Hate Racism

lol, get your laughing gear round that lot! :teef:
 
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