Madeline McCann discussion

jimbob23

Official 1000th poster
I have no evidence for my opinion, but as soon as I heard the story months ago I suspected the parents. As I say, it's just a hunch - whether it stems from cynicism, intuition, whatever, I don't know.

I totally agree that even if they're not directly responsible for the death/disappearance, to leave children of this age unattended, regardless of where you are is asking for trouble. You should be able to leave your front door open when you nip down the shops, but you don't. You should be able to leave your car unlocked when you go to the supermarket, but you don't. You should be able to leave your passports on the bed in an unlocked villa when you go on an excursion while on holiday, but you don't. So why the hell would you leave the most precious belongings you have, i.e. your children, on their own while you go out? Whether you're on the lash or just going for a meal is academic - you just wouldn't do it.

Either way, they're at least morally, if not legally, guilty, be it of murder/manslaughter/death by misadventure/whatever other term you want to use for responsibility for another's death, or of negligence.

If it's the latter, which in many ways I hope it is*, then no doubt they have learned their lesson the hardest way possible.

I'm not particularly well informed about the case, and most of the above is down to my, quite possibly misguided, instinct but I smell a rat.

*edit: Because, although I know these things happen, it would be nice to believe - if only for a short while - that I don't live in a world where people kill their own kids and then string the world along by telling them they've been kidnapped
 

Augustus Gloop

Well-Known Forumite
As mentioned by my chum up North, and it's a somewhat flippant comment too.

"If they are in anyway guilty of this horrible crime then they're buggered. They've lied to the Pope! Those lot won't be happy!"

Have to go with Jimbobs opinion on the subject. But I know my thoughts are down to cynicism and a general lack of faith in humanity these days. Nothing surprises me anymore.
 

cookie_monster

Well-Known Forumite
Augustus Gloop said:
"If they are in anyway guilty of this horrible crime then they're buggered. They've lied to the Pope! Those lot won't be happy!"
:rofl:

please, can i steal that?

i have to admit that i havent thought about this too much- due to the lack of official reporting and massive amounts of speculation surrounding this story since it broke- im really struggling to form an informed opinion.

although i am inclined to agree with jimbobs statement

jimbob23 said:
I totally agree that even if they're not directly responsible for the death/disappearance, to leave children of this age unattended, regardless of where you are is asking for trouble
x
 

MISS T

Forum user & abuser
Good post Jimbob.
You don't leave your most treasured possesions, not even for a second. Certainly not when a great big swimming pool stands in the way.
 

db

#chaplife
there are going to be ructions if the mccanns use any of that donated money for their legal fees.. or anything (other than a charity), really..
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Sorry to bring up an old topic, but I just saw this and was quite frankly disgusted:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0850793483/thedvdforums-21

A book (part 1 no less!) about 'the story so far'. This makes me sick, cashing in on something like this. Besides, all they know is:

3 kids put to bed
Parents go out on the lash with their mates
2 kids left when they get back

THERE ARE NO OTHER FACTS! Its like that film Open Water - based on a true story my arse, all they knew was that they left them at a dive site and they died!

dirtybobby said:
there are going to be ructions if the mccann's use any of that donated money for their legal fees.. or anything (other than a charity), really..
Didn't they use some of it to pay their mortgage?

God I'm in a bad mood with the world today! Someone get me a beer....
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Oh Noes!

Won't somebody think of the children? And take them to see it rather than leaving them at home....
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
McCanns are now writing a book, to tell THE TRUTH

"My reason for writing is simple -- to give an account of the truth," said Kate McCann. "Publishing this book has been a very difficult decision and is one that we have taken after much deliberation and with a very heavy heart.

"However, in the last few months, with the depletion of Madeleine's Fund, it is a decision that has virtually been taken out of our hands.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101115/tuk-mccanns-sign-book-deal-for-missing-m-a7ad41d.html

The truth? How can you tell the truth, you weren't there you ******* disgrace to the word parents. All you can say is we went out on the piss, got home and realised we lost one of the kids. Thats hardly going to fill a book is it?

Wonder what section it'll get published in? True Crime? Fiction?
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
tek-monkey said:
McCanns are now writing a book, to tell THE TRUTH

"My reason for writing is simple -- to give an account of the truth," said Kate McCann. "Publishing this book has been a very difficult decision and is one that we have taken after much deliberation and with a very heavy heart.

"However, in the last few months, with the depletion of Madeleine's Fund, it is a decision that has virtually been taken out of our hands.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101115/tuk-mccanns-sign-book-deal-for-missing-m-a7ad41d.html

The truth? How can you tell the truth, you weren't there you ******* disgrace to the word parents. All you can say is we went out on the piss, got home and realised we lost one of the kids. Thats hardly going to fill a book is it?

Wonder what section it'll get published in? True Crime? Fiction?
An alternative view might be that this enables the case/situation/tragedy to be highlighted once again after it had drifted out of the public and media spotlight
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
All it will do is get a load more nutjobs claim they saw her, which will cost money to investigate. The only winners here are the lawyers and investigators, does anyone really believe she is still alive?
 

Tinkerbell

Well-Known Forumite
tek-monkey said:
McCanns are now writing a book, to tell THE TRUTH

"My reason for writing is simple -- to give an account of the truth," said Kate McCann. "Publishing this book has been a very difficult decision and is one that we have taken after much deliberation and with a very heavy heart.

"However, in the last few months, with the depletion of Madeleine's Fund, it is a decision that has virtually been taken out of our hands.
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20101115/tuk-mccanns-sign-book-deal-for-missing-m-a7ad41d.html

The truth? How can you tell the truth, you weren't there you ******* disgrace to the word parents. All you can say is we went out on the piss, got home and realised we lost one of the kids. Thats hardly going to fill a book is it?

Wonder what section it'll get published in? True Crime? Fiction?
Im glad that someone has finally printed/said what I have always felt. It is very sad that Madaleine was taken ... and hopefully one way or another she will be found so the family have closure.

But I still cannot understand how someone can leave their baby children and a young tot (or any children) on their own in a foreign country, so the parents could go out on the lash.

Because they were well-to-do (i.e. Doctors) there was no investigation into the neglect/safety of their children. If this had been a single mother the police would have charged them.

Sadly, I dont think there will be a happy outcome to this and I wont be buying any book
 

MISS T

Forum user & abuser
The father of Holly Wells wrote a book, detailing the case of the Soham murders a few years back, no one seemed to have a problem with that.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Unless I missed something he had not part in what happened, and certainly wasn't negligent. It would be interesting to see how they justify leaving the kids alone despite the hotel offering a sitting service. Not that I'll buy the book to find out.
 
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