Scottish independence - vote now!

Should Scotland be independent?

  • No

    Votes: 15 50.0%
  • Yes

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30

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As per this thread, should Scotland be an independent country, in your opinion?

I have omitted the 'It's up to them' option from the original thread, as the question isn't "Who should decide?", it is "Should Scotland be independent?", so one should have an opinion regardless of who the deciders are (even if that opinion is "I don't care").

I have also unticked the 'Allow others to see who voted for what' option, so no-one will know what option you have chosen (just in case anyone was worried about that sort of thing).
 

kyoto49

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I genuinely don't care!!

Now, should there be a poll about London becoming independant of the rest of England, now that I do have an opinion on!!! :)
 

Mikinton

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I voted 'yes'.

I think the jocks are sufficiently different to the rest of us Brits to be able to argue that independence is the sensible thing, provided they can make a fist of it financially (which I think they can, even if they have a difficult first decade or so).

I must admit that I'm a little dismayed by all the analysis of whether they'd financially better or worse off, as I don't think decisions like this should be made on that basis. To me, it's a bit like leaving home; sure, in the early days things you'll find yourself having to buy stuff you didn't used to buy (like having to buy your own newspapers and bog roll, say - same thing if you're a Star reader :lol:), but at least you'll appreciate the freedom to get bladdered every night without your ma giving you an earful the next day.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
They just want their alcohol promotions back! ;)

But I voted yes, let them be independent. If only because I saw a britain first supporter the other day saying they shouldn't be allowed, the same sort of person that moans that Europe shouldn't be allowed to control us from afar.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
I voted yes because I fail to see why I should help subsidise their free prescriptions and lower tuition fees, when I can have no say (through a vote) as to how they run their affairs.
 

cometcycle

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I've voted Yes but I do fear their Independence will strengthen the current Government of the UK remaining in Power.
It's interesting that so much has been made of "Scottish Subsidies" but I've heard absolutely nothing about how those of us would be any better off without them. Perhaps we should all be asking the Government what it means for us?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
If we really subsidise them so much why is Westminster so determined to keep them rather than just let them get on with it?
 

littleme

250,000th poster!
Yes from me too...Presumably they will have to set up their own Health Service for the abuse of Deep Fried Mars Bars & Buckfast - saving the English Tax Payer a pretty penny. ;)
 

andy w

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The UK has gone a far way to dig itself out of a very big hole we got ourselves in due to the crash 6 years ago. With so much uncertainty on what' s in the future after a Yes decision and it concerns we will head backwards. If Scotland wants to screw up it's economy that's up to them, but it worries me they'll drag us down with them.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Out of interest how do you think they'll drag us down? If they are a liability as most seem to imply then surely us ditching them will make our country appear stronger?

Although most people outside the UK I've talked to about this have said a yes vote means if they ever come back it will likely to be to Scotland rather than England!
 

andy w

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Markets dislike uncertainty and you only have to see the fall in the value of the pound to see that money is flowing out of the UK. The worry is that a Yes vote could trigger a surge of money taken out and the pound losing even more value which in turn would force the Bank of England to raise interest rates higher and earlier than what's expected to support the pound. The concern then would be that the growth that we've seen over the past 2 years would come to a halt and go backwards.
 

Laurie61

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I voted no, Salmond has not answered all, or even some, of the questions regarding the break up despite planning this for years. He has a 'it'll be alright on the night' attitude which is a disaster waiting to happen, basically expecting everybody else to clear up his mess. Frightening really that somebody can reach such a position of power with so little common sense or grasp of the situation.
 

Perrier

Banned
i voted yes , simply for no other reason than hoping Cameron and his money grabbing cronies get sacked for this happening on their watch :)
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
But if it all goes tits up its the Scottish who suffer, not us. If all the bullshit propaganda is to be believed companies want to relocate here from Scotland if it goes through, so why is our gov so against a yes vote? Hell, it pretty much ensures a Tory government for years to come yet even they don't want it. Whats missing here? I keep thinking of the spin on teachers pensions, there is certainly something they don't want to admit and I suspect t is that despite demonising Scotland as layabout tax scrounging bastards we actually need them more than they need us.
 

andy w

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Isn't it telling that the Yes campaign want to keep the Pound and have the Bank of England set interest rates and economic policy. Why haven't they based their claim for independence on having their own currency and having their own central bank. Seems like they are holding on to the coat tails of the country they so want to be free from.
Currency union must be rejected for the sake of all parties. If the UK had wanted to share a currency we would have joined the Euro and looking at what's gone on in the Eurozone we did the right thing to join the single currency. The worry that sharing a currency with a potentially disparate country could undermine our currency and that Scotland could 'do a Greece' on us. Likewise economic policy being set in London would create the same resentment that we see in Scotland now.
An independent Scotland could do better or worse than what is left of the UK and good luck to them if do but I want to see Scotland remain in the Union because we share so much in common, we have so many links with the different areas of the UK, we have all contributed and benefitted from the Union.
Both my Head and my Heart tells me the Union should remain.
 

Withnail

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I'm not sure.

I'm kind of glad i don't have an actual vote - i'd be swaying from Yes to No probably several times per hour. It'd do my heid in.
 

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
A fat bunch of Pompous Egotists spending millions of public money without my consent

They can all go and find independence on some squat little island offshore and bleat out of sight and sound of me and stick their blue and white crosses up their arseholes

WE DON'T CARE!
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
They are a country in their own right as far as I was aware, but I must be wrong as otherwise they'd already be independent. But hey, if standing up for your national identity is wrong do I want to be right? Can anyone complaining about immigration not want them to go it alone? Can anyone moaning about their disproportionate drain on the economy not be glad they are relinquishing their claim? Why do we want Scotland anyway? As I've said many a time I want free from the EU, how could I want that and deny Scotland freedom from 'us'?
 

Prawn cocktail

Well-Known Forumite
Just seen on the BBC that Scotland could be one of the richest countries in the world? I really don't know how they have come to that conclusion?
 

Noah

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I genuinely don't care!!

Now, should there be a poll about London becoming independant of the rest of England, now that I do have an opinion on!!! :)

Do you mean the rest of the country gaining independence from London (& the South East). If so yes, until we can bring back Mercia, East Anglia, Northumbria, Rheged, Lindsey, Wessex etc.
 
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