Smoking

[Bob]

I was quite surprised to come out of Tesco at lunch time the other day and see a security guard in full uniform walking across the car park having a fag. My first thought was, how unprofessional he looked and it dawned on me that with the exception of pub smoking shelters you rarely see people smoking these days.

I used to smoke but packed it in a couple of years ago- with the very odd exception when too much wine has been consumed.

Does anyone smoke anymore?

 

[Glam]

Loads do where I work, Fortunately for those of us that don't, the hospital and all grounds, outreaching areas, are now all No Smoking areas. I drove to work yesterday, to see all the office workers standing out on Corporation st smoking. Quite how it will be implemented with the night staff has yet to be discovered. But as a non smoker, it will be nice to assist with personal care of a patient, while not having to smell stale cigarette smoke on a colleagues breath.

 

[littleme]

I gave up 3years ago although my husband still smokes. Neither of us smoked in the house though- I was horrified when we went to husbands elderly uncles house and he lit up whilst we were there... totally forgot people still do smoke in their homes!

 

[Bob]

It always shocks me when I see people smoking in cars with kids in the back.

 

[Glam]

It always shocks me when I see people smoking in cars with kids in the back.

My sister does that, drives with her window open, and blows the smoke out of it, but it's all goin into the back. Then soon as she's finished, she throws the end out the window n closes it. I mentioned it to her once, "it's ok, most goes out the window! she said.
Ridiculous.

 

[andy w]

I have never smoked but I accept the personal decision for others to smoke.
Thinking back to before the smoking ban came into place the proposals were to ban smoking in eating places and rooms would be designated for smokers. This common sense proposal was dropped for a blanket ban which has lead to the sad site of people standing outside pubs, offices, hospitals etc having a fag in all weathers. A lot of smokers have said sod this and don't bother going to the pub and all those anti smokers haven't flocked to the pubs to take their places.
As said on other subjects on here, we should think long and hard before we start banning people from doing legitimate activities because where do stop. Do we limit how much people can drink, should we ban fishing, should fatty food be banned, should our carbon footprint be limited etc. I know a few on here would probulary say yes to all these things but how far do you want state control to determine your lives?

 

[Trumpet]

Always used to smile when I worked down t'pit. Old guys in the showers after their shift leaning forwards out of the spray so as not to get their fag wet. Couldn't wait an extra 10-15 mins.

 

[henryscat]

I have never smoked but I accept the personal decision for others to smoke.
Thinking back to before the smoking ban came into place the proposals were to ban smoking in eating places and rooms would be designated for smokers. This common sense proposal was dropped for a blanket ban which has lead to the sad site of people standing outside pubs, offices, hospitals etc having a fag in all weathers. A lot of smokers have said sod this and don't bother going to the pub and all those anti smokers haven't flocked to the pubs to take their places.

The blanket ban was the right thing to do - the effects of passive smoking (because of others making personal decisions to smoke) were damaging the health of staff working in pubs/bars as well as other customers. The down fall of pubs is nothing to do with the smoking ban and a lot to do with how breweries and pubcos rip off their tenants.

As said on other subjects on here, we should think long and hard before we start banning people from doing legitimate activities because where do stop. Do we limit how much people can drink, should we ban fishing, should fatty food be banned, should our carbon footprint be limited etc. I know a few on here would probulary say yes to all these things but how far do you want state control to determine your lives?

Taking smoking as the example, how far do you want big tobacco corporations to determine your lives? They use very subtle marketing techniques and aim to get people hooked to an incredibly addictive substance at an early age. Whilst you criticise the state for intefering with free choice, large corporations are busy taking away free choice whilst maintaining an illusion it is still there.

 

[Trumpet]

A lot of smokers have said sod this and don't bother going to the pub and all those anti smokers haven't flocked to the pubs to take their places.

The, then time, gaffer at the Crown in Hyde Lea banned smoking several months before the official ban came in and it made not a jot of difference to his trade.

 

[proactive]

The blanket ban was the right thing to do

No surprise you would agree banning.


What would you like to see banned next? I'd bet it's a bloody long list, with 'enjoyment' and 'fun' right at the very top.

 

[henryscat]

No surprise you would agree banning.

The effects of passive smoking are proven. A ban on smoking in public places was (is) in the interests of majority of the population who choose to refrain from smoking. On what basis would you disagree the smoking ban?

 

[proactive]

The effects of passive smoking are proven. A ban on smoking in public places was (is) in the interests of majority of the population who choose to refrain from smoking. On what basis would you disagree the smoking ban?

I didn't say I disagreed with the ban on smoking in confined public places.

 

[henryscat]

In fairness you didn't.... so are you in favour of the ban?

 

[proactive]

In fairness you didn't.... so are you in favour of the ban?

I'm not generally in favour of banning things but due to the proven dangers of passive smoking to other human beings then I believe it was the right thing to do.

I don't see why a designated smoking room couldn't have been allowed for, for those who do smoke, rather than making them cower outside in all weathers, but that's a different argument.

 

[Withnail]

I don't see why a designated smoking room couldn't have been allowed for...

 

[That-Crazy-Rat-Lady]

Ex Boss: Do you smoke?
Me: No why?
Ex Boss: Oh was going to ask you if you wanted a fag break but if you don't smoke you can carry on working.
Me: Ow.....

 

[Floss]

I'm not generally in favour of banning things but due to the proven dangers of passive smoking to other human beings then I believe it was the right thing to do.

I don't see why a designated smoking room couldn't have been allowed for, for those who do smoke, rather than making them cower outside in all weathers, but that's a different argument.

like how pubs use to be the bar you could smoke in and the lounge area you couldn't ! Everything makes a comeback a bit like flares lol

 

[Gadget]

I quite enjoy going to pubs, restaurants etc these days as i can breathe while i'm there and don't stink when i come out. The whole seperate areas didn't work as smoke, like air it kind of gets everywhere.
Smoke breaks do annoy me as smokers take regular breaks but non smokers don't get them. Used to annoy the hell out of me working away while my collegues vanished for 5-10 mins every 30 odd mins or so.

 

[Floss]

I quite enjoy going to pubs, restaurants etc these days as i can breathe while i'm there and don't stink when i come out. The whole seperate areas didn't work as smoke, like air it kind of gets everywhere.
Smoke breaks do annoy me as smokers take regular breaks but non smokers don't get them. Used to annoy the hell out of me working away while my collegues vanished for 5-10 mins every 30 odd mins or so.

Yes I can see how that would be annoying, wonder if you said I don't smoke but I like a few scoops they would let you have a break for a swift half!

 

[Gramaisc]

It always shocks me when I see people smoking in cars with kids in the back.

Talk of raising the ban in Ireland to include that - if they haven't already..