Stafford Traffic.

[Theresa Green]

Once all the chips in us have been activated, they'll be able to monitor the speed of any individual remotely - no need for all the cameras.

Does it work with pies?

Particularly meat and potato with gravy

 

[airbusA346]

Whyever should they only be in accident black spots and painted yellow ?

I'm sure some rule was introduced years ago saying all speed cameras had to be yellow so they were more visible.

I seem to remember reading in the past that when people are requesting speed camera be fitted that they are usually told that speed cameras are fitted in locations where there have been a certain number of accidents in some many years.

 

[PeterD]

I do agree with @kyoto49 on this, Rising Brook and Moss Pit, is there a need for the cameras there? Rising Brook is usually very congested so likelihood of exceeding 30, not impossible but not the norm these days. As for Moss Pit, 2 in close succession. Have one on Eccleshall road, a moderately long straight road, if you arent speeding you have someone close to your bumper. Put a camera there.

 

[basil]

I'm sure some rule was introduced years ago saying all speed cameras had to be yellow so they were more visible.

I seem to remember reading in the past that when people are requesting speed camera be fitted that they are usually told that speed cameras are fitted in locations where there have been a certain number of accidents in some many years.

Is a rule the same as a law ?
Is requesting the same as asking?
Is compulsory the same as obligatory?
Is incident the same as accident ?
Is order the same as pre-order?
If me auntie had bollocks she'd be me uncle......

 

[joshua]

Once all the chips in us have been activated, they'll be able to monitor the speed of any individual remotely - no need for all the cameras.

Yeah, still waiting for that upgrade

 

[EasMid]

I do agree with @kyoto49 on this, Rising Brook and Moss Pit, is there a need for the cameras there? Rising Brook is usually very congested so likelihood of exceeding 30, not impossible but not the norm these days. As for Moss Pit, 2 in close succession. Have one on Eccleshall road, a moderately long straight road, if you arent speeding you have someone close to your bumper. Put a camera there.

Years ago, when speed “cameras” were a big box pointing across the road with a copper standing beside it & another a few hundred yards up the road stopping the speeders, they were a regular feature on the Eccy road near the Holmcroft road junction.
Once, driving towards the M6, I had an arsehole in an mgb come up behind me & sat on my bumper while I was doing 30mph. I pulled over a bit & indicated left while passing Brooklands school but increased speed very slightly. He shot past
me flashing his lights & giving the horn some stick.
I gave him a little toot as I passed him on the side of the road by the Tillington as the copper stepped into the road with his clip board.
I’ve always wondered why the haven’t got at least 1 fixed camera along there. They don’t even seem to have the vans there that often.

 

[proactive]

Years ago, when speed “cameras” were a big box pointing across the road with a copper standing beside it & another a few hundred yards up the road stopping the speeders, they were a regular feature on the Eccy road near the Holmcroft road junction.
Once, driving towards the M6, I had an arsehole in an mgb come up behind me & sat on my bumper while I was doing 30mph. I pulled over a bit & indicated left while passing Brooklands school but increased speed very slightly. He shot past
me flashing his lights & giving the horn some stick.
I gave him a little toot as I passed him on the side of the road by the Tillington as the copper stepped into the road with his clip board.
I’ve always wondered why the haven’t got at least 1 fixed camera along there. They don’t even seem to have the vans there that often.

To be honest, I think the Eccleshall Road deserves average speed cameras. It's insanity along there.

 

[Cue]

Whilst I'm not defending them, it would appear that the council are making them operational, as the fixed ones haven't worked for years and you'd only get caught via mobile speed cameras.

Yeah someone once told me they just move a couple of cameras from box to box, so you never know which one it’s in

Citation needed mind you

 

[Noah]

Pretty sure that in most areas there were only two or three cameras operational which they moved from box to box. The cameras were owned by a private company who maintained them and charged the appropriate council an arm & a leg. Outdated technology, they used film which had to be developed, ageing and unreliable which is why councils got rid of them.

 

[Theresa Green]

And before that, charcoal sketches of horse and trap boy racers in their Top Hats

Speed limits came into force 160 years ago
at 10 mph, reduced to 2mph in the smoke

 

[Gramaisc]

Pretty sure that in most areas there were only two or three cameras operational which they moved from box to box. The cameras were owned by a private company who maintained them and charged the appropriate council an arm & a leg. Outdated technology, they used film which had to be developed, ageing and unreliable which is why councils got rid of them.

Somebody once used FOI to reveal that Norfolk, I think, hadn't had an active camera anywhere for about two years.

 

[Noah]

charcoal sketches of horse and trap boy racers in their Top Hats

There was a time when it was policemen with stop watches hiding in bushes or other places of concealment. All and sundry, speeding for motorists, fast & furious riding for cyclists & horse riders ...

 

[Mudgie]

There was a time when it was policemen with stop watches hiding in bushes or other places of concealment. All and sundry, speeding for motorists, fast & furious riding for cyclists & horse riders ...

I think "furious driving" might still be an offence under section 35 of the Offences Against the Person Act of 1861.
"Whosoever, having the charge of any carriage or vehicle, shall by wanton or furious driving or racing, or other wilful misconduct, or by wilful neglect, do or cause to be done any bodily harm to any person whatsoever, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and being convicted thereof shall be liable, at the discretion of the court, to be imprisoned for any term not exceeding two years ..."

 

[Theresa Green]

There was a time when it was policemen with stop watches hiding in bushes or other places of concealment. All and sundry, speeding for motorists, fast & furious riding for cyclists & horse riders ...

Some rural coppers miss the heavy doors of the K6 and stray sheep

 

[airbusA346]

I do agree with @kyoto49 on this, Rising Brook and Moss Pit, is there a need for the cameras there? Rising Brook is usually very congested so likelihood of exceeding 30, not impossible but not the norm these days. As for Moss Pit, 2 in close succession. Have one on Eccleshall road, a moderately long straight road, if you arent speeding you have someone close to your bumper. Put a camera there.

Yet, loads of people struggle to keep a constant speed along there.

 

[kyoto49]

Yet, loads of people struggle to keep a constant speed along there.

People come off the motorway having been traveling at speed and the drop to 30mph feels like being stationary. It's far too easy to find you're going too fast, alot too fast. On the outward journey people are speeding up in preparation for the motorway. The speed ive witnessed while walking the dogs have been terrifying.

 

[airbusA346]

People come off the motorway having been traveling at speed and the drop to 30mph feels like being stationary. It's far too easy to find you're going too fast, alot too fast. On the outward journey people are speeding up in preparation for the motorway. The speed ive witnessed while walking the dogs have been terrifying.

I'm not going on about people speeding along there, more the fact I can be following someone and their speed can vary so much from going low 20's to 30 and anywhere in between in a short distance.

 

[kyoto49]

I'm not going on about people speeding along there, more the fact I can be following someone and their speed can vary so much from going low 20's to 30 and anywhere in between in a short distance.

Lucky you. My experience is of doing 30, having someone right up my ar*e as if it was a 50mph zone or just outrightly overtaking at speed as if someone doing the speed limit is causing an obstruction.

No other road in Stafford has as many high speed crashes yet nothing useful is done

 

[Gramaisc]

Lucky you. My experience is of doing 30, having someone right up my ar*e as if it was a 50mph zone or just outrightly overtaking at speed as if someone doing the speed limit is causing an obstruction.

No other road in Stafford has as many high speed crashes yet nothing useful is done

I've been doing 30ish along there and often had people whizz past me - on several occasions, they have been surprised to find a central island in the way and have had to continue on the far side of that, to the 'mild amusement' of the oncoming traffic.

I do find the preferred speed of drivers to be higher when inbound.

 

[airbusA346]

Lucky you. My experience is of doing 30, having someone right up my ar*e as if it was a 50mph zone or just outrightly overtaking at speed as if someone doing the speed limit is causing an obstruction.

No other road in Stafford has as many high speed crashes yet nothing useful is done

I've had numerous people overtake me along there. The best one was an orange Range Rover heading into Stafford. He was certainly in a hurry. Problem for him though was Greyfriars/Foregate Street was down to one lane and he was stationary queuing in the left lane of the roundabout and I passed him in the right lane and turned down past National Tyres.