Staffordshire County Flag

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
The council one looks awful - far too complicated and with the knot tiny. It's not even the symbol the council itself uses: all their letterheads and website have a logo, which is - The Knot! As for the long, yawning cat at the top, what's that to do with Staffs? Whatever the flag is to be, it has to be the Stafford knot, whether you put it on red, blue, green, black or a red chevron. (I like the chevron one.)
You best mates with Stafford Chevron?
 

Carole

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You best mates with Stafford Chevron?

Hey hon, be fair.

Up until the other day I had no knowledge of the County flag.

Now that I have been enlightened I do now have an opinion.

But that isn't because I know or am friends with @Stafford Chevron, I have just based my opinion on the flags that have been put before me.

And others probably have also made a decision based on that.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
County flags are quite commonly used in Ireland, where a lot of sporting competitions are organised using the same boundaries. I can't see a county flag really getting much popular use here.

The flags there are generally bicolours, with a couple of tricolours and one plain single colour, I think. It works quite well, without any random animals or other fancy bits on.
 

Withnail

Well-Known Forumite
The flags there are generally bicolours...
The other flag thread, started by @Noah has, in the link, the idea of a yellow knot on a red field -
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- which is much more palatable.

Knot needs to be more 'ropy' -

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- that sort of thing, if you know what i mean.

Surely we can get behind that one all the more betterer?
 

Carole

Well-Known Forumite
Totally agree with @Withnail about the colour of the flag.

I do rather like the green ropey one.

The one that @Stafford Chevron presented is better than the one with the lion on but I dont really like the yellow colour.
 

Noah

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The other flag thread, started by @Noah has, in the link, the idea of a yellow knot on a red field -
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- which is much more palatable.

Knot needs to be more 'ropy' -

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- that sort of thing, if you know what i mean.
Surely we can get behind that one all the more betterer?

IF we have to have one then either of these are far better than the chevron, with or without the scrawny cat on top.
 

Amerlan

Well-Known Forumite
Result of the Vote for
The County Flag of Staffordshire

County Flags have become an important part of our regional and national identity. Most English counties have a recognised County Flag, but Staffordshire did not. The Flag Institute, the UK’s national flag charity, maintains the register of County Flags, which can be viewed on their website (www.flaginstitute.org) and works with county organisations to come up with suitable designs. The County Flags are based on the historic counties of the UK, rather than the modern administrative areas, so Staffordshire includes Stoke-on-Trent, Wolverhampton, and several other parishes that fall outside Staffordshire County Council’s area.

The Flag Institute received two applications for a County Flag for Staffordshire, one from Staffordshire County Council (SCC) and the other from the Staffordshire Heritage Group (SHG), an umbrella organisation for many cultural groups in Staffordshire. Both applications met the Flag Institute’s published criteria for applying, and both designs met the Institute’s design guidelines, so the Flag Institute decided that the only fair way to choose between them was to give the people of Staffordshire an opportunity to vote for the design they liked best.

The vote has now closed and the results are in. Voting was restricted to people who live or work in the historic county of Staffordshire, so voters were requested to supply their postcode (either work or home) and these have been checked against a list of all the valid postcodes in the historic county area.

The results are:

Total ballots submitted: 825
Total validated as being from someone who lives, or works, in Staffordshire: 784
Total validated as Staffordshire and actually choosing a design: 777 (ie. 7 people didn't choose a design)

Votes for each design:
Staffordshire County Council: 211 (ie. 5 excluded) - 27.16% of validated votes
Staffordshire Heritage Group: 566 (ie. 30 excluded) - 72.84% of validated votes

The Staffordshire Heritage Group design is therefore the winner and it will be added to the Flag registry as the County Flag of Staffordshire. The Staffordshire County Council design will, of course, remain the Council's own flag, as it is a banner of their arms.

The winning design is shown below:
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The New County Flag of Staffordshire

The gold background and red chevron comes from the coat-of-arms of the de Stafford family and has been used in connection with the county since at least the 17th century. The knot is an ancient symbol of Staffordshire, used by many organizations, including the Staffordshire Regiment and Staffordshire Cricket.

The vote took place from 9am on Monday 29th February until 9am on Sunday 27th March 2016.
 

Withnail

Well-Known Forumite
The knot is an ancient symbol of Staffordshire...
Hmm, not exactly true that, is it? Unless you somehow consider the C.15th to be 'ancient'? And consider the Lords Stafford to symbolise a whole County, a County in which they have never even been the main landholder.

So we have the coat-of-arms of the de Stafford family, upon which sits the heraldic badge of the de Stafford family. In light of current affairs it probably is symbolic of a great deal - in Stafford at least.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
It was the least worst of the two flags on offer, I dislike feudal symbolism, and flags should be simple to produce, if they are actually going to be used much.
 

Gareth

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Both flags are sh**e. With all that goes on in the world two organisations argue and waste money over designs which would look out of place in a preschool. Plus people voted on this.

GET A LIFE!!!!!
 
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