The EU & Cypriot Bank Theft

John Marwood

John Marwood

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proactive

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andy w said:
We in the UK get accused of being fixated by the war and being too nationalistic in our outlook. But it seems it is the pro-european federalists who base most of their thinking on the wars between European countries. They believe that to avoid further conflicts, member states should merge into a United States of Europe with a common currency and foreign policy etc. You only have to look at the Balken cival war and back further back to the Austro-Hasberg empire to see how forced unions causes conflict.
What has become apparent is that a major flaw of the Euro has been one currency/interest rate doesn't fit with 17 seperate economies and the situation was made worse by individual states having the freedom to borrow heavely to expand to unstainable levels. To keep the Euro project going the Euro leaders want to centralise economic policy for all of Europe. Effectively they are downgrading the powers of individual countries and as shown in the case of Cyprus the ECB/EU have control and overide sovereign countries.
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Looking at it slightly differently you could argue that Germany is trying to achieve financially what it failed to achieve militarily.

Their bullying tactics and the sycophantic support of the French government (though not the French people) seem pretty much the same though.
 
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proactive said:
Looking at it slightly differently you could argue that Germany is trying to achieve financially what it failed to achieve militarily.

Their bullying tactics and the sycophantic support of the French government (though not the French people) seem pretty much the same though.
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Spot on!

We may have won the war but we have lost the peace!
 
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andy w

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Gramaisc said:
Have any of the other countries that were involved in the winning side also "lost the peace"?
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According to Wikipedia the Soviet Union suffered the most dead(24 million) followed by China(anywhere between 10 and 20 million) compare that with 450,000 British who died.
But it is Poland in my opinion that suffered the most and being on the 'winning side'. 5.6 million Poles died in WW2 out of a population of 35 million making Poland the highest percentage (16%) of deaths to population.Things hardly got any better after the war with Poland being absorbed into the soviet bloc with a communist government in charge with the stationing of Russian troops in the country. One of the most distressing stories to me was the fate of the survivors of the failed Warsaw rising who many of them were rounded up and sent to Siberian labour camps because they were deemed a threat to the Communist regime. Poland was not to see true independence until the fall of the iron curtain in 1989.
 
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