The Homeless man outside iceland

[ConcernedCitizen]

Rather than being totally heartless and capitalistic about this, why don't you contact social services or the place by the Suzuki garage (used to be Bethany, no idea what it is now) and see if there is some way in which this chap can be helped?

Whatever your opinion of the 'damage; he is doing to local business, living rough can't be much fun at all and he might be crying out for a helping hand.

I like to believe that I am as caring, compassionate and understanding as the next chap. I care about this Town and I want businesses to thrive and I understand all to well that it takes very little for an impression to come about, where a bad reputation dogs a certain part of the town and destroys the very fabric that holds our wholesome business community together.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

What would you do with him then?

I would contact the local authorities and the local parties. Make the best case possible to find a solution that benefits all sides and not one displaced individual.

 

[proactive]

I like to believe that I am as caring, compassionate and understanding as the next chap. I care about this Town and I want businesses to thrive and I understand all to well that it takes very little for an impression to come about, where a bad reputation dogs a certain part of the town and destroys the very fabric that holds our wholesome business community together.

We all care about the town, that's why we're on Stafford Forum.

Most of us though care more about human beings than bad reputations that only seem to exist in your mind.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

You need to watch this, all of it, and have a long hard look at yourself. I'm ashamed there are people like you on this forum.

This is a completely situation to what we have here in Stafford. The United States don't have the system which we have here in the United Kingdom to deal with this problem. For example, Chicago is a very big city with Crime figures that would make your eyes water and almost a non existent welfare system. The main issue is that this individual in Stafford is in the wrong location, I am not judging his circumstance, why he is where his but only take in mind that there are a lot of peoples jobs riding our very local fragile recovery after a long recession and the only thing I would ask you to consider is that individual go elsewhere and not put people's livelihoods at stake.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

There's actually 2 homeless men along the Iceland bit. The 1 that sits directly outside the shop, and another a bit further down, towards Wilkos.
When I was in Blackpool at the end of June, there were people begging every few yards. 1 bloke even tried snatch my phone out of my hand while I was talking to my sister, cos I wouldn't stop what I was doing and give him some money.

O dear, I hope you and your sister were ok. These one/two individuals don't seem to be crime related just in the wrong place.

 

[proactive]

The main issue is that this individual in Stafford is in the wrong location,

Should we have a homeless ghetto in Stafford then? Or do you have a list of locations that you think are suitable for the homeless not to drag the area down?

only take in mind that there are a lot of peoples jobs riding our very local fragile recovery after a long recession

Actually I reckon poor literacy skills probably do more harm to our 'very local fragile recovery' than any individual homeless person ever could.

the only thing I would ask you to consider is that individual go elsewhere and not put people's livelihoods at stake.

Yeah fcuk off where you can't be seen and die quietly. Does that sum it up?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just another internet troll.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

When I saw the thread title, I honestly thought it was from someone wanting to know how to help.

It sounds trite but homeless people weren't born different. They are us, with a little less luck. We could be them, with a little more time.

Try talking to him, you might be surprised. I was fortunate enough to make a very lovely friend who lived on the streets in Manchester when I used to go there often. I probably wouldn't have spoken to him, not because he was homeless but because I'm not very good with strangers. But he had a dog. I began carrying biscuits for the dog. Eventually the dog introduced his owner.

I am all in favour of philanthropy and positive campaigning. No one is stopping you from telling the local newspaper, charitable organisations or your local councillor about this particular individual, starting a campaign to raise money and awareness for him. By all means be a good Samaritan. kind regards.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

Who's 20-30 jobs are at stake then?
1 person does not an area drag down. That part of town is an eyesore, it needs bulldozing.

Well let's see, we have the argos staff, the home and bargain staff, the Iceland staff, the clothing brand store and the other smaller establishments.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

We all care about the town, that's why we're on Stafford Forum.

Most of us though care more about human beings than bad reputations that only seem to exist in your mind.

I understand by that comment you take the side of one or two individuals over hard working staff who probably need that job to pay for there family and small kids at home. Your comment is the pinnacle of irrational heartlessness.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

Should we have a homeless ghetto in Stafford then? Or do you have a list of locations that you think are suitable for the homeless not to drag the area down?


Actually I reckon poor literacy skills probably do more harm to our 'very local fragile recovery' than any individual homeless person ever could.


Yeah fcuk off where you can't be seen and die quietly. Does that sum it up?

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just another internet troll.

I am disappointed by such hostile reactions instead of a constructive discussion. This thread has been blown out of all proportion. Thanks for misquoting me out of context. Much appreciated.

 

[Glam]

I understand by that comment you take the side of one or two individuals over hard working staff who probably need that job to pay for there family and small kids at home. Your comment is the pinnacle of irrational heartlessness.

So, I take it you are one of the individuals who are likely to lose their jobs, are you?
I tell you sumat sunshine, you are coming across all holier than tho and very patronising. Who do you think you are, saying this poor bloke needs be moved elsewhere? He is in no way bringing down that area. The Sheridan Centre/Gaolgate Place, has always been a shitehole. They've never managed get anyone in that place next door to Iceland since the shops were built.
Personally I don't think Proactive is being heartless, it's you that's coming across that way.
And just for your info - Home Bargain aren't closing down. That shop is a gold mine.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

So, I take it you are one of the individuals who are likely to lose their jobs, are you?
I tell you sumat sunshine, you are coming across all holier than tho and very patronising. Who do you think you are, saying this poor bloke needs be moved elsewhere? He is in no way bringing down that area. The Sheridan Centre/Gaolgate Place, has always been a shitehole. They've never managed get anyone in that place next door to Iceland since the shops were built.
Personally I don't think Proactive is being heartless, it's you that's coming across that way.
And just for your info - Home Bargain aren't closing down. That shop is a gold mine.

There is not one reason why two people cannot hold two different views and have polite, constructive and positive talks about the implications for businesses in the area due to one or two particular individuals. Proactive has shown that swearing is his way of getting a message across while I have only shown compassion for those workers that get up early, go to work and do not need someone who could possibly put there livelihoods in jeopardy.

I do not work there but I sympathise with those that do. I think all sides have got to a point where we have reached an impasse and we are just repeating ourselves so I don't really know what else there is to say other than we can respectfully disagree.

Nothing we can really do about this issue anyway but show our concern.

Kind regards.

 

[Glam]

So what would you do with the homeless? Round them all up and stick them somewhere , say - like St. Georges? Shove them in the nuthouse, get them off the streets?!!

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

So what would you do with the homeless? Round them all up and stick them somewhere , say - like St. Georges? Shove them in the nuthouse, get them off the streets?!!

My solution is campaigning for money and awareness for the direct intention of philanthropy.

 

[Glam]

So what would you do with the homeless? Round them all up and stick them somewhere , say - like St. Georges? Shove them in the nuthouse, get them off the streets?!!

My solution is campaigning for money and awareness for the direct intention of philanthropy.

Knickers. You've got yr back up cos no-one on here agrees with you about moving the poor sod on somewhere else.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

It doesn't matter if 1% has the right opinion or 99% has the right opinion. The right opinion is the right opinion is the right opinion. My opinion has remained the same. Philanthropy is always the answer to homelessness but this selfish man should not ruin the livelihoods of local businesses. I don't know why you say no one has my back. There is only a handful of people discussing this issue. I don't think the opinions of 5 or so people matter to the 130,800 people (2011 consensus) or so that live in Stafford.

 

[John Marwood]

The Con Census?

Ruddy Tories get everywhere

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

The Con Census?

Ruddy Tories get everywhere

I am glad that it's only the spelling that you disagree with and not the points that was raised. Besides I am a Liberal/Libertarian not a Tory

 

[John Marwood]

Philanthropies a few grand at him then

I am glad that it's only the spelling that you disagree with and the points that was raised. Besides I am a Liberal/Libertarian not a Tory

Hahahahaha

 

[John Marwood]

I am glad that it's only the spelling that you disagree with and the points that was raised. Besides I am a Liberal/Libertarian not a Tory

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