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Not so... XP's withdrawal is already in place and will have totally ceased within 12 months. They are planning the same 3 service packs of Vista as they had with XP before total withdrawal, which allowing for the time since Vista's release makes a good equal time run that XP was given.dirtybobby said:but XP is still on the vast majority of machines out there, and it is obvious that microsoft is going to brush vista under the carpet in favour of windows 7..
One huge difference is UAC (user account control), which has immense security purposes. Vista also makes much better use of memory. (Example my Aspire One netbook runs BETTER with Vista Ultimate than it did on XP home)dirtybobby said:i think what would be useful is if people listed the things vista can do that xp can't.. as far as i'm aware, that list would be very very small (if not nonexistant), so it makes sense to stick with an older OS that has all the same features but has been tried and tested for 8 years..
i'm happy to be proved wrong, though.. it just seems to me that all the people who choose vista do so purely because it's "newer".. if there are things it can do (proper things, that one would use in the real world) that xp can't then please let me know!
microsoft's "withdrawal" of xp has been going on for years, but the general animosity of the corporate sector towards vista has meant that they have basically admitted this is an exercise in futility.. they have stated "categorically" that support will end on more than one occasion, and then reneged on this because it just isn't practical..wmrcomputers said:Not so... XP's withdrawal is already in place and will have totally ceased within 12 months. They are planning the same 3 service packs of Vista as they had with XP before total withdrawal, which allowing for the time since Vista's release makes a good equal time run that XP was given.dirtybobby said:but XP is still on the vast majority of machines out there, and it is obvious that microsoft is going to brush vista under the carpet in favour of windows 7..
when i worked at fedex i was partly responsible for testing vista in anticipation of rolling it out across the whole operation, so used it quite a bit.. the one hurdle that we just couldn't get over when trying to justify it to management was: what does vista do that xp doesn't?wmrcomputers said:CURIOSITY QUESTION - No offence intended, how much Vista experience have you had opportunity of? Are your thoughts based on how much you love XP, or actual bad experiences of Vista? If the latter, then was this pre SP1?
see, this is good.. tangible benefits that you can see before your eyes!shoes said:I find the GUI nicer and more intuitive. Not necessarily added functionality, but improvements to the current feature set. For example instead of the address bar in explorer you get this way of navigating around your pc:
don't forget to let stephen fry know as well, who famously lost his rag recently over exactly the same thing..shoes said:Now if you want to network Vista with a Mac.... well if anyone has successfully managed this please let me know
i've got 2 x XP PCs and an OS X 10.4 mac at home and they all share files just dandily..shoes said:Xp seems to suffer with the same affliction, so whilst this doesn't contribute towards the answer to the original question its a great bit of derailing
it won't just appear on the network, because it is not part of your workgroup.. to access your mac from your pc, you have to enable sharing on the mac for a start..shoes said:Normally in finder my housemate's XP machine appears under shared, however I cannot see my vista box. I will try what you have said above when i get home tonight and let you know how i get on - thanks for the info.
FWIW neither machine will see the mac, is there something i have to do to the mac to make it appear on the network?
yeah, i'm a mac n00b as well.. the only reason i got one was so i could educate myself as to how they work!shoes said:Hmm well I haven't seen anything like that so I presume thats the vital step I have missed! I have enabled file sharing and networking, however nothing specific to windows. I can't remember exactly off the top of my head, and all this mac gubbins is still really new to me. I'll definitely have a crack at this tonight though - your help is much appreciated!
I personally don't think you'll regret it. I agree with what has been said about networking Vista to other PC's but if you dont intend to do this it's of no real concern to you.gk141054 said:Right guys, I have decided to go for it for one reason and one reason only....
I have just wiped my machine completely and clean installed XP so all of my files are backed up elsewhere...
Its a ballache getting back to how my machine was before (minus the slowness) so I might as well give Vista a try and if its sh*t or slow with Vista on then I can just wipe it and go back to XP with no additional ballache to what I have to do anyway....
nah, see my other posts - XP to OS X (and vice versa) is a doddle.. vista, on the other hand, simply refuses to play ball, and has been the subject of a lot of bad press recently, not least because of stephen fry lol..wmrcomputers said:Just to confirm to Shoes etc... Vista to Vista = no problem. I wouldn't look at this as a floor to Vista though, XP to XP is a doddle but to Mac I understand is more complicated etc. I think we just need to assume networking any different platforms together is a ballache.