weekly bin collections

zebidee

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henryscat said:
Not use so many disposable nappies? Which account for a scary amount of landfill - disposable nappies are the largest single contributor to UK land fill and about 8 million a day chucked into landfill each day in the UK.
Initial outlay is the biggest factor against using reusables, plus high temperature washing of course, when ours was little the cost of buying the blooming things was what held us back, especially with first child and moving into first (owned) house. Cost was completely prohibitive. Purchase on a week to week basis was easier at the time.

These days, if another baby was on the way, I would start investing now, buying second hands etc. But then, four years down the line, we are now in a comfortable position and can think about these things. (In my eyes, it's the same scam as pre-payment meters, but when you live on a fixed budget from week to week what can you do?).
 

henryscat

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Wolfenrook said:
Hiya folks, Gadget's hubby here.

HC, another thing with cloth nappies, have you taken into account the extra electricity used in the laundering of these nappies? Then there's the negative effects the manufactuering of the detergeants used in the laundering, blah blah blah.
Yep, when you take into account the whole lot, disposables are still significantly worse.


Weigh in with the extra workload in handling cloth nappies, in days already EXTREMELY full of caring for 4 children (2 disabled, 1 toddler and a teenager) and I am sure you will understand better our refusal to stop using disposable nappies.
I can understand that there are reasons for the choice, I just made the point in response to a question on apparently not being able to reduce waste. If you want to make that choice, then obviously that has consequences in producing more rubbish than you can get in all the bins. I would say there is the Council tip, but it annoys me that you can chuck away as much rubbish as you like provided you have a car, but if you don't you can't.

As a general point, it genuinely staggers me that households can produce such enormous amounts of rubbish. When I was a kid I can never remember more than two black bags a week going out on bin day and there were no recycling collections.


On the flip side, we don't own a car, and use public transport for most journeys not involving our children. Our carbon footprint actually comes in lower than many of the card driving cloth nappy users that oh so often try to push cloth nappies onto us. ;)
Possibly so!
 

Wolfenrook

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I would actually say that nappies make up less than 1/4 of our none recyclable/compostable waste to be honest. A very large proportion of our waste is stupid bloody none recyclable packaging! I mean ffs, there ARE alternatives to polystyrene available these days (expanded maize for one). It helped a bit when tetrapaks became recyclable, but then that was just one more thing filling our blue bins....

The thing is as well HC, I dunno if you are a similar age to me or not, but when I was a kid you did NOT waste food etc. These days try the same methods our parents used raising us and you have a social work ringing your doorbell... Tell a kid that they eat the meal in front of them or go hungry and you are neglecting the child. Modern parenting has changed a lot, thanks mainly to bleeding heart liberals and people who genuinely abused the more relaxed nature of laws etc back then. But then, when I was a kid we had a lidded black bin and a weekly collection, and the 'bin men' as they were back then WOULD take bags put by the bin as well.

I still fondly remember the argument I had once with somebody over cloth nappies, not least as they took their kids to and from school, every day they were in school, in a big fuel guzzling 4x4 (this is a woman, not a man, in my experience many 4x4 drivers are actually women. lol), who had the affrontary to rant at me that we should be using cloth nappies immediately... Then they got started on moon cups, and I exhited the thread promptly when she started on about plant food....

Oh and as said, we tried to deal with the waste food problem by using Bokashi bins. We ended up with 8 of them, as to be blunt they DON'T work! All you get is partically fermented food, and this is after over a year of been sealed up.

Thank heavens for our compost bins though, as without them we would be producing even more waste! The fact is though, our kids generate 80% of our waste, both recyclable and none recyclable, and getting rid of the kids isn't an option, really it isn't. lol

Oh and don't even get me started on how badly the bin collections failed last winter! The annoying thing was, the bin truck drove past our street, which was CLEAR of ice and snow, for about 2 months in a row. We had to get family and friends in the end to take RUBBISH to the local recycling centre. Our back yard was piled high with black bags! Only for the council to refuse to allow them to be collected alongside the normal green bin. Now THAT was a good one for blaming an increase of vermin on for sure!
 

Gadget

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Wolfenrook said:
The fact is though, our kids generate 80% of our waste, both recyclable and none recyclable, and getting rid of the kids isn't an option, really it isn't. lol
See! He takes all the fun out of things :P
The dog would like to point out that she is an excellent receptical for most waste food stuffs. I would like to point out to the dog that she stands no chance unless we let her become as far round as she is high lol.

Yes packaging! An example of over packaging, week before last i bought ''A Yard Of Jaffa Cakes'' (diet killers but they were delicious) They came not only in the yard long box, but in flipping normal boxes and plastic wrapping as well. It's not rocket science to omit the normal boxes and just go with the big one is it :( Bane of my life is polystyrene. It is big, bulky, doesn't squish and cannot be recycled and we usually get a box half filled with the damn stuff every week. It's horrible for the environment and i hate just binning it, but what else am i suppose to do with it?
G x
 

zebidee

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Gadget said:
Bane of my life is polystyrene. It is big, bulky, doesn't squish and cannot be recycled and we usually get a box half filled with the damn stuff every week. It's horrible for the environment and i hate just binning it, but what else am i suppose to do with it?
G x
Ooh got an answer for that one: Freegle (or post on here) and give it away to people :)
 

Gadget

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zebidee said:
Gadget said:
Bane of my life is polystyrene. It is big, bulky, doesn't squish and cannot be recycled and we usually get a box half filled with the damn stuff every week. It's horrible for the environment and i hate just binning it, but what else am i suppose to do with it?
G x
Ooh got an answer for that one: Freegle (or post on here) and give it away to people :)
Lol Right you are on, next time i get some it's yours :)
G x
 

Wolfenrook

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The irony is, I quite often buy in polystyrene in sheets. lol I carve it, heat gun it, then cover it in gorilla glue and an organic substrate of my chosing (ground treefern, eco earth (like peat made from coconut husk), even orchid bark). I then silicone it on the inside walls of my vivs. lol

The packing stuff is useless for this though sadly. Not least as quite often it's of the polystyrene beans variety. Some of the stuff that gets packed with this is just STUPID! Even had some branches packed in it once..... Yet other places have more sense, had some other branches that came in just a bulk cricket (the insect) type bag fastened up with a cable tie. They're seriously reusable as well, not least as it's a woven structure, so perfect for use for things where you need good drainage or 'ventilation'.

Oh well hun, at least I found an outlet for the giant 'beer cooler' polystyrene boxes, and all those cardboard boxes. A friend I am travelling to UK Frog Day with in a couple of weeks is gonna take them, use them for his terrarium plants and equipment business. :D

Now to find a way to get rid of those 2 old aquariums. Anybody want a little 35 litre cube, or a rather old and slightly chipped (holds water, or did when I stripped it down) one that's about 120 litres?

Oh and the last thing that messed up our green bin was the flipping wrapping off the new suite! Bloody delivery drivers unpacked it, and instead of taking the packing away stuffed it in our green bin. Grrrrr.

Talk about going off at a tangeant though, sorry.

Ade
 

zebidee

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Haha! I'm sure there's people around who occasionally need packaging if they're selling on ebay or anything like :)
 

Miss Red

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Howcome we have 3 bins (blue, green, brown) - take care what we put in each one etc because of landfill and stuff....but business bins are heaving to the top with everything all mushed together?

If its harmful to whatever then surely everyone should do the same
 

WildwoodPaul

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Miss Red said:
business bins are heaving to the top with everything all mushed together?
Our business bin has everything going into it, we pay a bit extra and it goes to a transfer station where folks get paid to sort it .... apparently!
 

Goldilox

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We have two kinds of bin at work. Grey bags for general waste & clear ones for mixed recycling.
 
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