What is wrong with these people?

proactive

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
http://www.staffordshirenewsletter....e-year-caution-for-care-failings-20092013.htm

Surely Ann King should have been brought up on manslaughter or criminal negligence charges, not just an appearance in front of her peers?


And why hasn't Jeanette Coulson been banned for life as clearly she has no concept of caring and compassion which must surely be placed at the forefront of medical care?

Plod, stop eating your doughnuts and start doing your job!
 
littleme

littleme

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Didn't the diabetic patient die shortly after this indecent...you would of thought manslaughter charges should of followed.
 
littleme

littleme

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She deliberately lied about treating patients, giving patients medication & changing dressing....so yes, I would say deliberate malice...
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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keithandrew said:
look up what manslaughter is and you will realise how crazy you sound
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I know it's always dangerous to quote Wikipedia, but -

Wikipedia said:
Voluntary manslaughter occurs when the defendant kills with malice aforethought (an intention to kill or cause grievous bodily harm), but one of the partial defences which reduce murder to manslaughter applies. The partial defences are: diminished responsibility; loss of control; and suicide pacts.
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Wikipedia said:
Involuntary manslaughter arises where the accused did not intend to cause death or serious injury, but caused the death of another through recklessness or criminal negligence.
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Is there a more definitive definition somewhere?
 
monkey bidness

monkey bidness

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Gramaisc said:
I know it's always dangerous to quote Wikipedia, but -



Is there a more definitive definition somewhere?
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Not exactly more definitive but ...
"Involuntary Manslaughter covers those cases where there is no malice aforethought or mitigating circumstances but the death was caused by recklessness, or was intentional but the offender lacked sufficient awareness of the consequences of his or her actions for it to treated as murder."

From "Criminolgy", Prof.Tim Newburn.
 
flossietoo

flossietoo

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To suggest that manslaughter presupposes actual malice cannot be correct - think about the motorists who are charged and in some cases found guilty of manslaughter after causing death.

Most recently, a motorist was charged with manslaughter after opening his car door without looking and in the process, forcing a cyclist under the wheels of a passing bus. Nobody suggested that the motorist had been sitting there all morning waiting for a cyclist. He wasn't malicious, he just failed to take care. Similarly, manslaughter charges were originally brought against the organiser of the firework display, the smoke from which drifted across the motorway causing horrific loss of life. He hadn't set out to kill and maim. It wasn't his motivation that informed the decision to bring the original charges (later dropped), it was the preventable outcome.

If your understanding of something is a little shaky it isn't sensible (or nice) to suggest that someone else sounds insane. Especially when they don't.
 
Withnail

Withnail

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Corporate Manslaughter, for example, would be 'crazy sounding' if it was sought to prove any deliberateness.

I think you should probably look up what manslaughter is before suggesting that people should look up what manslaughter is - especially if you don't actually know what manslaughter is, and definitely not if this is as a result of not having looked up what manslaughter is.

Other than that, welcome to being educated out of your ignorance - it will feel better eventually...
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

I ♥ cryptic crosswords
This is why we have judges

Ultimately a person makes a decision

Case history and a person in tights


Beats the
 
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