Madeline McCann discussion

Withnail

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tek-monkey said:
...does anyone really believe she is still alive?
I doubt many people thought Jaycee Lee Dugard was alive either.

I think it's quite explicit that the money made from the book will go toward continuing the search for the girl - it's understandable that they should want it to go on.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Maybe instead of writing the book they could have persuaded their friends to take part in a recontsruction, which they (the friends) refused to do? Always struck me as odd that, you'd think they'd want to help. I know most of what is said is wild speculation, as nobody knows what happened, but I just can't find it in my heart to believe they weren't complicit in some way.

I'd still love to know why Leicestershire police didn't think they neglected the kids, despite people doing similar in the UK ending up before the beak.
 

wmrcomputers

Stafford PC & laptop repair specialist
I find alot about this matter strange. Although it would be unfair to say "they were involved" which is unlikely to be the case, they still created the surrounding facts which allowed this to happen.

Having said that, if they weren't directly involved I still feel for them. I think it is unlikely that she would still be alive, in honesty (and bearing in mind what she could be experiencing) in some ways I pray she isn't.

(Hope not to offend anyone)
 

Tinkerbell

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MISS T said:
The father of Holly Wells wrote a book, detailing the case of the Soham murders a few years back, no one seemed to have a problem with that.
He wrote a book on what happened, and writing the book probably gave him a little closure, although would never ease the pain. The murders of holly and jessica cannot be compared to the mccann story.
 

Mikinton

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There's been a couple of developments on the Madeleine McCann issue that you may not be aware of, mainly because they don't show the parents in a good light so won't have been reported by the UK press.

Firstly the libel action that the parents took out against the guy heading the Portuguese investigation way back in the summer of 2007 has been postponed for 6 months while they try to negotiate a settlement.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/mccanns-ask-for-extrajudicial-settlement.html

"It is invariably DEFENDANTS who ask for a settlement. It is almost never CLAIMANTS. It doesn't take an Einstein to work out that the McCanns' negotiating position and bargaining power has reduced measurably since the start of the month. And that's probably something of an understatement."

And secondly the story that appeared on the frontpage of last week's Sunday Express has been shown (by those who doubt the McCanns' word) to be a hoax.

http://order-order.com/2013/01/24/revealed-sunday-express-maddie-mccann-photo-blunder/

I'll keep you posted.
 

Mikinton

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There's been a couple of developments on the Madeleine McCann issue that you may not be aware of, mainly because they don't show the parents in a good light so won't have been reported by the UK press.

Firstly the libel action that the parents took out against the guy heading the Portuguese investigation way back in the summer of 2007 has been postponed for 6 months while they try to negotiate a settlement.

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/mccanns-ask-for-extrajudicial-settlement.html

"It is invariably DEFENDANTS who ask for a settlement. It is almost never CLAIMANTS. It doesn't take an Einstein to work out that the McCanns' negotiating position and bargaining power has reduced measurably since the start of the month. And that's probably something of an understatement."

And secondly the story that appeared on the frontpage of last week's Sunday Express has been shown (by those who doubt the McCanns' word) to be a hoax.

http://order-order.com/2013/01/24/revealed-sunday-express-maddie-mccann-photo-blunder/

I'll keep you posted.
Tomorrow's the big day, but I bet it won't get the sort of coverage it got when they got the book describing the Portuguese investigation banned, when their PR machine went into overdrive.

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic5164.html#p75533

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic5164.html#p75534

As they chant at football matches "You only sing when you're winning."
 

Mikinton

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Anyone watch last night's Crimewatch?

The shift in direction is interesting and may be an indication that things are moving. They're now discounting the sighting of one of their friends; apparently they've found someone who's only just come forward six years later (where have they been? - in a monastery?) who can remember what they were doing and what they were wearing on the night in question. And it seems a bit odd that they're taking a child TO the crèche that late in the evening.

And greater emphasis is being placed on the sighting of an Irish family, the Smiths. The two e-fit images shown came from years ago and one wonders why they're only now being released. The Portuguese Police would have had no reason to hold them back. So that leaves the McCanns very own private detectives. Anyway, this may be the reason ..... the statement of Martin Smith. Note especially the bit about being 60-80% certain of who he'd seen.

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1JKz

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Some (quite a few infact) posts in this thread, are a little chilling.
You know who you are.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
So the previous suspect now turns out to be someone picking their kid up from the creche, a creche that was still operating while they were out with their mates. If only they'd known.
 

1JKz

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A few of you are quite literally (with your hindsights and hypothetical ways of thinking), insane.
 

Jonah

Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
Whether they did kill their daughter or she was abducted by person(s) unknown, the question which keeps popping into my head and one that seems to have never been satisfactorily answered is "why did the McCanns leave three children under the age of 4 alone in a hotel room at night?".

I cannot understand why they did this.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
A few of you are quite literally (with your hindsights and hypothetical ways of thinking), insane.


I'm not quite sure what you are getting at? Its not hindsight to know you shouldn't leave three children under 4 years old alone in an apartment in a foreign country while you go on the lash with your mates, and it isn't hypothetical to think that the creche service could have looked after them instead and none of this would have happened. Extremely bad parenting, to an extent that if they had done it in the UK they would (should?) have been arrested.

Don't get me wrong, I do feel very sorry for the child, but perhaps if they admitted they were in the wrong more people would give a toss when they keep appearing on the TV?
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Whether they did kill their daughter or she was abducted by person(s) unknown, the question which keeps popping into my head and one that seems to have never been satisfactorily answered is "why did the McCanns leave three children under the age of 4 alone in a hotel room at night?".

I cannot understand why they did this.
I hope you're not implying that they should bare any responsibility whatsoever for what happened...
 

Glam

Mad Cat Woman
I hope you're not implying that they should bare any responsibility whatsoever for what happened...
Yes they should. They should never have left those children alone. Fair does, if you want a meal with friends have 1. But, have it at home, cook yourself or get it delivered. Under no circumstances leave those children without proper supervision ever.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Even worse, turns out the creche was free. Not that it was an issue to them, they were hardly poor, but it does mean they left the kids in daycare all day, then got them back just to put them to bed so that they could go out with mates. They could have left them in the care of the hotel and got them after the meal, but they probably knew they'd be a bit worse for wear and didn't want the hassle. They even admit to leaving the patio doors unlocked so that they didn't have to go round the front, those being the doors they said they could see from inside the restaurant but actually couldn't.

But no, no responsibility at all. They must be good parents, they met the pope because of this!
 
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