Destruction of Doxey Marshes.

ATJ

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I can't see any names, addresses, email and telephone numbers!

If you look through the documents associated with the case (20+ pages of attachments) none of them are redacted. There are dozens labelled 'neighbour consultation response' (if I remember correctly, I'm not on the website right now) which include the personal info.
 

james w

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I had no idea the Rugby Club were proposing to relocate. I thought there were looking to improve their existing facilities.

The inconsistencies shown by the BC in dealing with this application and the SCHC is absolutely shocking. If this application is approved and SCHC refused serious questions should be asked and a complaint made to the ombudsman. Ideally, there would be a judicial review. However, you need to have deep pockets to go down that route!

Stafford Rugby Club are getting funding from TW and have the backing of a major landowner, as such why do need to relocate to an area so environmentally sensitive....surely Riverway or Beaconside would be a better option.
Yep - I mentioned in the Hockey thread that the position of the council towards these applications does seem to fly in the face of logic and public demand.
And unfortunately by the time it unravels the decisions will have already been made and a complaint to an ombudsman will be fruitless in overturning it.
 

kyoto49

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Please everyone spread the word, get all your friends and family objecting on the planning website and attending the march, share on Facebook and all other social media. Don't leave it too late :(
 

The Hawk

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I've been having another look at some of the documents.

The response from Natural England, dated 15 April 2015, urges Stafford Borough Council to
have strong regard to the comments of the local wildlife trust in relation to wider biodiversity impacts.

The response from Staffordshire Wildlife Trust details many reasons why the application should be rejected.

Should Stafford Borough Council go against the advice, of Natural England, to take on board the Wildlife Trust's objection, and approve the application then it would leave the door open for a judicial review as, under Section 28 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as inserted by section 75 and schedule 9 of the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000, the Borough Council has various duties, including to conserve and enhance Sites of Special Scientific Interest. This includes the duty to consult with and take on board comments by Natural England.

Therefore, as Natural England have advised Stafford Borough Council to have strong regard to the comments of Staffordshire Wildlife Trust, the Borough Council would, if it went against such advice/comments, leave itself wide open to a legal challenge.
 

BigD

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Jesus, I had no idea that much land was being grabbed!

Land and subsequently construction companies nibble away at land you would never have thought would cease to be green belt, look at the developments behind the rugby club started small, and now the fields across from Parkside, only a matter of years until Stone will become part of Stafford.
 

1JKz

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I'm out of the country on the 5th.

Can someone grab a complete stranger and convince them to go on the march, to make up my number?
 

kyoto49

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I've been having another look at some of the documents.

The response from Natural England, dated 15 April 2015, urges Stafford Borough Council to

The response from Staffordshire Wildlife Trust details many reasons why the application should be rejected.

Should Stafford Borough Council go against the advice, of Natural England, to take on board the Wildlife Trust's objection, and approve the application then it would leave the door open for a judicial review as, under Section 28 of the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 as inserted by section 75 and schedule 9 of the Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000, the Borough Council has various duties, including to conserve and enhance Sites of Special Scientific Interest. This includes the duty to consult with and take on board comments by Natural England.

Therefore, as Natural England have advised Stafford Borough Council to have strong regard to the comments of Staffordshire Wildlife Trust, the Borough Council would, if it went against such advice/comments, leave itself wide open to a legal challenge.

I hope you have documented this fantastic post somewhere for people in the planning department to see, as well as posted your objection as you are obviously a very articulate person who understands many of the issues and can write them in a clear and understandable manner - unlike me!! :)
 

PPPPPP

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I had no idea the Rugby Club were proposing to relocate. I thought there were looking to improve their existing facilities.

The inconsistencies shown by the BC in dealing with this application and the SCHC is absolutely shocking. If this application is approved and SCHC refused serious questions should be asked and a complaint made to the ombudsman. Ideally, there would be a judicial review. However, you need to have deep pockets to go down that route!

Stafford Rugby Club are getting funding from TW and have the backing of a major landowner, as such why do need to relocate to an area so environmentally sensitive....surely Riverway or Beaconside would be a better option.

Ombudsman a waste of time. All they do is push paper around for six months or so, then suggest some sort of damage-limitation excuse for the council, which it can choose to ignore, anyway. By that time it's too late. Judicial Review only costs about a hundred quid in the initial stage. If the council knows it will lose, they might back down, but not if it would offend a rich applicant, of course. If they fight it they have huge resources (ie. millions of our money) at their disposal.

The BC is pulling a similar stunt with the old Brooklands school site at the other side of the Marshes. What we need is an action group that can go through all the dodgy planning decisions and hit the council with a load of JRs (insert Larry Hagman jokes here).
 

kyoto49

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Had a look at the plans for North Stafford last night which includes Sports Pitches, perhaps a better home for the Rugby Club?

This has actually been suggested to the rugby club. They declined it, although I know not why. I saw it when I was scan reading one of the many many documents associated with the plans. Cost seems to ring a bell.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
If cost rings a bell it must only be cost of land, they are building from scratch? What about the uni, why not build it there? Bit of a slope granted but they could be on different levels, and the land will be up for sale. Somehow, cos I thought we owned it? Sure it was a state run institute, do they get to steal all the assets?
 

Gramaisc

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What about the uni, why not build it there? Bit of a slope granted but they could be on different levels, and the land will be up for sale. Somehow, cos I thought we owned it? Sure it was a state run institute, do they get to steal all the assets?
The Polytechnic was built, owned and run by the County Council when I was there. I have asked many times if any money changed hands when it was passed into the ownership of the University "Trust"*, but I've never got an answer.

* I use the word "trust" in its legal sense, I do not imply any actual trust being involved anywhere.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Thought as much, guessing they got it free then realised half of Stafford campus was worth 5x the stoke one. Laughing really, free land and now they're farking off
 

Withnail

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I've been having another look at some of the documents.
I have done the same - apologies if this turns out to be a bit mahoosive but is a precis of the positions of those that matter. There may turn out to be formatting issues that i will try and address if necessary. Here goes...

Natural England 09/01/15

...we do not believe at present that sufficient information has been demonstrated that the development clearly outweighs nature conservation value or that measures to mitigate / compensate impacts are appropriate as proposed.

SWT 16/01/15

Staffordshire Wildlife Trust objects to the application due to the impacts to Doxey and Tillington Marshes Site of Special Scientific Interest (SSSI) and support the comments made by Natural England in their letter of 9 January 2015.

Biodiversity Officer (Bill Waller) 16/01/15

... In short I don’t think there should be any further development of any kind that close to the SSSI...

13/02/15

(Case Officer: I would inform you that I have received additional information on the above proposals. I would be obliged to have your further observations by 27 February 2015.)

There is no change to my comments

SWT 18/03/15

At this point we are still minded to object to the plans for a number of reasons, including that the design still does not minimise impacts to the SSSI, the loss of habitats and the overall function of the site in its own right is not adequately mitigated or compensated, and the current compensation proposed within the SSSI is not appropriate as stated by Natural England.

SWT 26/03/15

This application would appear not to comply with the NPPF in terms of minimising impacts to biodiversity, providing net gains in biodiversity or establishing coherent ecological networks that are more resilient to current and future pressures...

... The proposal does not comply with local policy in terms of the reasons for it clearly outweighing the nature conservation value of the site itself and the national policy to safeguard the national network of such sites...

... The proposal does not comply with the Green Infrastructure Strategy for Stafford, as it does not involve managing land adjacent to Doxey Marshes in sympathy, promote wildlife and sensitive access, or include net biodiversity enhancement or flood mitigation...

... We feel the role of the application site as a buffer and valuable habitat in its own right, protecting and aiding the SSSI's function while providing habitat diversity within the overall ecological unit, has not been fully reflected in the information provided. We feel that further information on the site’s status as a potential addition to the SSSI needs to be sought...

... The application site was within the original SSSI boundary, along with other areas of land, when it was first designated in 1977. It was excluded when the SSSI was renotified in 1989 under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. We understand this was due to the site having a planning application active at that time, hence the rather irregular boundary. This is no longer the case, as all former permissions have lapsed...

... Overall, the value and status of the site needs to be clarified and understood before a decision is taken, and we strongly advise the LPA to obtain information from Natural England on the site’s potential status and the current SSSI review situation...

... SWT notes the amended layout which now avoids taking any land within the SSSI. However there would still be indirect impacts to the SSSI due to the removal of most of the site’s habitats and the alteration of its role as a link between the SSSI areas on each side and a buffer adjacent to existing housing...

... The LPA firstly needs to be sure that impacts cannot be reduced via Avoidance – can significant harm to wildlife species and habitats be avoided for example through locating on an alternative site with less harmful impacts? We feel this site is not appropriate for any development, and certainly not the best site amongst all other available land in the Stafford area for a rugby club...

... Doxey Marshes is very much an urban SSSI and has suffered, and continues to suffer, from development pressures on all sides. We feel that suitable alternative sites do exist for this development, that the Plan for Stafford Borough appears to have allocated ample space for new green space, and that affordability of land, although an understandable and unfortunate constraint, should not be a reason to compromise the future protection and enhancement of this sensitive area.

... Staffordshire Wildlife Trust submits an objection to the proposals, due to:

· Lack of information on the status of the site in terms of its potential inclusion in the SSSI and therefore broader impact on the national network of Sites of Special Scientific Interest.
· The site being inappropriate for development compared to other land available
· Likely impacts to the SSSI's notified features namely Snipe, as well as other birds that use the SSSI and the site itself.
· Lack of assessment of other developments regarding cumulative impacts
· The proposals being contrary to policies in The Plan for Stafford Borough 2011- 2031 and the Green Infrastructure Strategy for Stafford.
· The need to clarify in more detail the value of the grassland on site particularly for fungi.
· Lack of figures for the loss and gain of each habitat on the site, the value of these habitats and the net impact to biodiversity.
· Inadequate avoidance of impacts through the design of the layout. · Inadequate provision of habitat and species compensation.

Biodiversity Officer 27/03/15 – re “The Wildlife Trust’s full and comprehensive comments on the application”

...this degree of uncertainty and lack of information must lead to serious questions over the appropriateness of this application in its current location. It is my opinion that the questions asked above will not and cannot be answered satisfactorily and therefore we should refuse this application.

Natural England 02/04/15

The withdrawal of Natural England’s objection to this application does not necessarily mean that all natural environment issues have been adequately addressed, but that we are satisfied that the specific issues that we have raised in previous correspondence relating to this development has been met. Natural England, as stated in previous correspondence, is not in a position to give a view on issues such as local sites, local landscape character or the impacts of the development on species or habitats of biodiversity importance in a local context. We would therefore urge you to have strong regard to the comments of the local wildlife trust in relation to wider biodiversity impacts.

Case Officer (Mark Alford) 08/04/15

For clarification, the club do not need to justify why they want to move, but why this site is suitable when considered against other possible alternatives...

...However, it is noted that Natural England is not objecting to the proposals...

...Both Staffordshire Wildlife Trust and the Biodiversity Officer object to the proposals. The Wildlife Trust has been consulted as a neighbour given its role in the management of Doxey Marshes SSSI. It should be noted that their response does include an indication of their own aspirations for the application site in addition to the technical advice offered, thereby suggesting a potential conflict of interests...

... The recommendation is therefore to grant permission, subject to conditions...

... The reasons for the Council’s decision to grant permission for the development subject to the above conditions are:
...
6. To safeguard the character of the area, enhance biodiversity...
...
15. To minimise disturbance to wildlife of the Doxey Marshes Site of Special Scientific Interest
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22. To enhance biodiversity (Policy N4 of The Plan for Stafford Borough)

23. To enhance biodiversity (Policy N4 of The Plan for Stafford Borough) (sic)
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29. To minimise disturbance to wildlife of the Doxey Marshes Site of Special Scientific Interest





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Withnail

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... cont...

SWT 15 (sic)/04/15

There are a number of inaccuracies in the Officer’s Report which we wish to address, as well as further comments on biodiversity we wish to make...

...Staffordshire Wildlife Trust (SWT) has commented on this application not solely as a neighbour, but as a nature conservation body... Our comments are related to impacts to the SSSI as a protected site and to biodiversity impacts generally... Staffordshire Wildlife Trust as an organisation does not have any ‘aspirations’ for the site and there is no conflict of interest bearing on our comments. We request this sentence be removed from the report, and would welcome an explanation as to which part of our response has indicated this impression...

... although the site received planning permission 25 years ago, the officer should clarify the relevance of this and the weight to be given, as legislation and planning guidance have changed vastly in this time...

...The summary given of Natural England's comments is over-simplistic... they are not commenting on aspects of local biodiversity importance, and urge the council to “have strong regard to the comments of the local wildlife trust in relation to wider biodiversity impacts.”...

...Additional proposed usage from April to September ...have not been assessed in terms of impacts to ecology... This information is required pre-determination...

... We question how the conclusion that the benefits of the development outweigh the impact to the SSSI when the final design of the site has not been submitted and impacts have not been fully quantified or accurately assessed...

... We would appreciate a response to our points, particularly with regard to the incorrect statements made within the officer’s report...

Natural England 15/04/15

I would reiterate that Natural England was able to remove our objection only after the applicants suggested no works within the SSSI would take place and only subject to the imposition of the specific conditions we requested. Additionally I would agree with your point 7 in the attached -

“The summary given of Natural England's comments is over-simplistic...”

- Unfortunately we aren’t resourced to comment those aspects but we would again urge regard to those who are better placed to comment on such issues.

Biodiversity Officer 13/05/15

Natural England has withdrawn its objection but states that it is not in a position to judge... The Wildlife Trust has made a number of comments on the application concerning the biodiversity impacts therefore we should be minded to take account of this. The Wildlife Trust have summarised their concerns below. The developer needs to be able to answer these questions before a decision is made...

...We are of the view that the proposals, from what can be seen of them, would not adequately mitigate or compensate for impacts to habitats and species on the site, or result in a net gain for biodiversity...

...It is not clear how the proposal will contribute to the priorities for habitats and species in the plan, and it would appear that currently the proposal would not contribute positively...

... Green Infrastructure Strategy for Stafford November 2009

The proposals are contrary to policies for Strategic Open Space Action Area ‘A’ – Doxey and Tillington Marshes, and also the Biodiversity Intervention Zone for Wetland Management Expansion.

The Plan for Stafford Borough 2011-2031

The application site is marked as Green Infrastructure in the Stafford Inset Map. Approximately 1 hectare of green land would be lost to hard infrastructure, without compensation...

Ecological Report 03/07/15

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The Hawk

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Below is a list of bird species recorded on Doxey Marshes, as per Staffordshire Wildlife Trust's Doxey Marshes Bird Report for 2009. I make no apologies for the length of the list, as it highlights the wide range of species that would be threatened by this development.

  1. Red-throated Diver
  2. Little Grebe
  3. Great Crested Grebe
  4. Red-necked Grebe
  5. Manx Shearwater
  6. Gannet
  7. Cormorant
  8. Bittern
  9. Little Egret
  10. Cattle Egret
  11. Great White Egret
  12. Grey Heron
  13. Purple Heron
  14. White Stork
  15. Spoonbill
  16. Mute Swan
  17. Whooper Swan
  18. Bewick’s Swan
  19. Snow Goose
  20. White-fronted Goose
  21. Bean Goose
  22. Pink-footed Goose
  23. Greylag Goose
  24. Canada Goose
  25. Barnacle Goose
  26. Brent Goose
  27. Shelduck
  28. Ruddy Shelduck
  29. Egyptian Goose
  30. Mandarin Duck
  31. Mallard
  32. Gadwall
  33. Pintail
  34. Shoveler
  35. Wigeon
  36. Teal
  37. Garganey
  38. Pochard
  39. Scaup
  40. Tufted Duck
  41. Common Scoter
  42. Goldeneye
  43. Smew
  44. Ruddy Duck
  45. Red-breasted Merganser
  46. Goosander
  47. Osprey
  48. Marsh Harrier
  49. Hen Harrier
  50. Montagu’s Harrier
  51. Buzzard
  52. Honey Buzzard
  53. Sparrowhawk
  54. Goshawk
  55. Kestrel
  56. Hobby
  57. Peregrine Falcon
  58. Merlin
  59. Red-legged Partridge
  60. Grey Partridge
  61. Quail
  62. Corn Crake
  63. Pheasant
  64. Water Rail
  65. Spotted Crake
  66. Coot
  67. Moorhen
  68. Common Crane
  69. Oystercatcher
  70. Little Ringed Plover
  71. Ringed Plover
  72. Grey Plover
  73. Golden Plover
  74. Lapwing
  75. Knot
  76. Sanderling
  77. Turnstone
  78. Dunlin
  79. Curlew Sandpiper
  80. Little Stint
  81. Temminck’s Stint
  82. Wood Sandpiper
  83. Green Sandpiper
  84. Common Sandpiper
  85. Redshank
  86. Spotted Redshank
  87. Greenshank
  88. Black-tailed Godwit
  89. Bar-tailed Godwit
  90. Curlew
  91. Whimbrel
  92. Woodcock
  93. Snipe
  94. Jack Snipe
  95. Red-necked Phalarope
  96. Ruff
  97. Pectoral Sandpiper
  98. Arctic Skua
  99. Mediterranean Gull
  100. Little Gull
  101. Common Gull
  102. Lesser Black-backed Gull
  103. Black-headed Gull
  104. Herring Gull
  105. Great Black-backed Gull
  106. Caspian Gull
  107. Yellow-legged Gull
  108. Glaucous Gull
  109. Kittiwake
  110. Little Tern
  111. Common Tern
  112. Arctic Tern
  113. Black Tern
  114. Stock Dove
  115. Wood Pigeon
  116. Collared Dove
  117. Turtle Dove
  118. Cuckoo
  119. Tawny Owl
  120. Long-eared Owl
  121. Short-eared Owl
  122. Barn Owl
  123. Little Owl
  124. Swift
  125. Bee-eater
  126. Kingfisher
  127. Green Woodpecker
  128. Great Spotted Woodpecker
  129. Lesser Spotted Woodpecker
  130. Skylark
  131. Swallow
  132. Sand Martin
  133. House Martin
  134. Meadow Pipit
  135. Rock Pipit
  136. Water Pipit
  137. Tree Pipit
  138. Yellow Wagtail
  139. Blue-headed Wagtail
  140. Pied Wagtail
  141. White Wagtail
  142. Grey Wagtail
  143. Great Grey Shrike
  144. Waxwing
  145. Wren
  146. Dunnock
  147. Robin
  148. Redstart
  149. Black Redstart
  150. Whinchat
  151. Stonechat
  152. Ring Ouzel
  153. Wheatear
  154. Blackbird
  155. Fieldfare
  156. Redwing
  157. Song Thrush
  158. Mistle Thrush
  159. River Warbler
  160. Cetti’s Warbler
  161. Grasshopper Warbler
  162. Sedge Warbler
  163. Reed Warbler
  164. Marsh Warbler
  165. Lesser Whitethroat
  166. Whitethroat
  167. Blackcap
  168. Garden Warbler
  169. Wood Warbler
  170. Chiffchaff
  171. Willow Warbler
  172. Goldcrest
  173. Firecrest
  174. Spotted Flycatcher
  175. Pied Flycatcher
  176. Marsh Tit
  177. Willow Tit
  178. Blue Tit
  179. Great Tit
  180. Coal Tit
  181. Long-tailed Tit
  182. Bearded Tit
  183. Treecreeper
  184. Nuthatch
  185. Jay
  186. Magpie
  187. Jackdaw
  188. Rook
  189. Carrion Crow
  190. Raven
  191. Starling
  192. Tree Sparrow
  193. House Sparrow
  194. Chaffinch
  195. Greenfinch
  196. Goldfinch
  197. Brambling
  198. Siskin
  199. Linnet
  200. Twite
  201. Lesser Redpoll
  202. (Mealy) Redpoll
  203. Crossbill
  204. Bullfinch
  205. Hawfinch
  206. Yellowhammer
  207. Snow Bunting
  208. Reed Bunting
  209. Corn Bunting

Since 2009 a few additional species have been recorded, including Red Kite and Bluethroat.

A number of "exotic" (escapes/feral) species have also been recorded, including Aylesbury Duck, Muscovy Duck and Black Swan.
 
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