ASDA introducing Pay and display parking

Gramaisc

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One of the reasons given when payments were introduced for parking at the hospital was that people were driving there separately, parking most of the cars up for the day, and then using just one car to finish the journey to the paid parking space in town.

A sort of virtual Park'n'Ride scheme.
 
Rikki

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Not saying I disagree with the charge, but being a private car park how enforceable would any fine be?
 
kyoto49

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bigbluewolf said:
That's pretty much what happens to my mother-in-law who lives in Littleworth. So many people parking right outside her house, sometimes across the drive, and leaving their car there all day. Someone has even left their car outside from mid afternoon to 8am the next morning.
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If a car is parked legally (not across her drive obviously) and is legal (tax etc) then what's the problem? No one owns the bit of road outside their house, despite what they might think.
 
tek-monkey

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kyoto49 said:
If a car is parked legally (not across her drive obviously) and is legal (tax etc) then what's the problem? No one owns the bit of road outside their house, despite what they might think.
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Not entirely true with regards to a driveway, I was under the impression that it was illegal to block someone in but not out.
 
Jonah

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kyoto49 said:
If a car is parked legally (not across her drive obviously) and is legal (tax etc) then what's the problem? No one owns the bit of road outside their house, despite what they might think.
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It's never parked legally as it is always parked half on the footpath. As we know, the footpath is NOT a car park even thought millions of drivers think it is.
 
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kyoto49 said:
It's only illegal to park on the pavement if an obstruction is being caused is my understanding??
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It's illegal to park on the pavement if the local council pass a bylaw to that effect. This has to be clearly signposted.

It's fecking stupid to park on the pavement because it is intended for pedestrians and those with mobility difficulties.
 
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Gramaisc

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Highway Code -

Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

Law GL(GP)A sect 15


i.e., do what you like outside London and you'll usually get away with it.

Some talk of changes - probably just talk. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34988833
 
ATJ

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Regarding parking in Littleworth, they should double yellow line the lot.

Regarding Asda, what a pain in the arse.
 
kyoto49

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bigbluewolf said:
Every car which parks on a footpath is causing an obstruction.
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You know my attitude is generally anti car, but I can't agree with this. Plenty of pavements are quite wide enough that it makes sense for the cars to pull on to the kerb a bit so as to keep the traffic free flowing on narrower roads. This is of course only valid when there remains safe passage for people who need to use a pavement. Sometimes the obstruction caused by a car parking on a narrow road is worse than a car taking up some of a wide pavement.
 
c0tt0nt0p

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bigbluewolf said:
Every car which parks on a footpath is causing an obstruction.
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Not really...
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Carole

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bigbluewolf said:
It's never parked legally as it is always parked half on the footpath. As we know, the footpath is NOT a car park even thought millions of drivers think it is.
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As annoying as it is, it's not illegal to park on the footpath or pavement unless you live in London.

It is only causing an obstruction if a wheelchair user or someone with a pushchair can't get through.

I live near a school and I have to put up with teachers/assistants/helpers parking outside my house all day. Every day.

The parents quite often block my drive while dropping off their kids.
Do I like it? Not particularly ....but I bought a house near a school so I can't complain.

We might own our drive but we don't own the bit of road outside our drive, so unless there are double yellow lines outside, one can't really complain.
 
HopesDad

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Rikki said:
Not saying I disagree with the charge, but being a private car park how enforceable would any fine be?
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Effectively unenforceable. The ticket machine is nothing more than an invitation to buy a ticket. If you choose not to take up the invitation it is a civil matter, and asda would have to first of all issue an invoice (which they would probably disguise as a 'parking ticket') and if you do not pay the invoice they could take you to court for job-payment. If that happens you do nothing at all until the day before the court hearing then you pay your £1. Really annoys them because they have had to pay for courts, solicitors, etc. but nothing they can do.
Obviously if the ticket operates a barrier at the gate then they've got you. But I see no sign of barriers being installed at asda.
 
HopesDad

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Gramaisc said:
Highway Code -

Rule 244
You MUST NOT park partially or wholly on the pavement in London, and should not do so elsewhere unless signs permit it. Parking on the pavement can obstruct and seriously inconvenience pedestrians, people in wheelchairs or with visual impairments and people with prams or pushchairs.

Law GL(GP)A sect 15


i.e., do what you like outside London and you'll usually get away with it.

Some talk of changes - probably just talk. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34988833
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The difference is between MUST and SHOULD. If you SHOULD do something but choose not to, that is not illegal. SHOULD is advisory only.
 
Jonah

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kyoto49 said:
You know my attitude is generally anti car, but I can't agree with this. Plenty of pavements are quite wide enough that it makes sense for the cars to pull on to the kerb a bit so as to keep the traffic free flowing on narrower roads. This is of course only valid when there remains safe passage for people who need to use a pavement. Sometimes the obstruction caused by a car parking on a narrow road is worse than a car taking up some of a wide pavement.
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If a road isn't wide enough to park on it safely then you don't park there. You park where it's safe. And that isn't on the footpath.
 
Jonah

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Carole said:
As annoying as it is, it's not illegal to park on the footpath or pavement unless you live in London.

It is only causing an obstruction if a wheelchair user or someone with a pushchair can't get through.

I live near a school and I have to put up with teachers/assistants/helpers parking outside my house all day. Every day.

The parents quite often block my drive while dropping off their kids.
Do I like it? Not particularly ....but I bought a house near a school so I can't complain.

We might own our drive but we don't own the bit of road outside our drive, so unless there are double yellow lines outside, one can't really complain.
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Whether it's legal or not, I don't believe that you should park half on the footpath.

As for living near a school, like you said that's your choice and you have to live with inconsiderate parents and how they park.
 
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