Coronavirus.

Thehooperman

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With coronavirus under control from early July, when pubs reopened, to early September, when schools reopened, it's blatantly obvious that pubs aren't to blame but they make a convenient scapegoat.

I don't think it is as simple as this. When the pubs reopened the number of people going out was fairly low, people on public transport was also low, businesses were super keen on cleaning and distancing, customers showed respect, distanced themselves from other people and so on.

Now it is utter madness, lax and in my view unsafe in many establishments.

It's definitely not all down to the kids when their parents act like dickheads is it?
 

tek-monkey

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10pm closing will be like 2pm last orders on Sunday was before 1988, a mad rush to the bar to get a last one in and then everyone leaving together and crowding onto the same bus, all of which negates the social distancing that had taken place in the pub throughout the evening.
But that's Boris's finger-in-the-air thinking and whack-a-mole policy making.
With coronavirus under control from early July, when pubs reopened, to early September, when schools reopened, it's blatantly obvious that pubs aren't to blame but they make a convenient scapegoat.
The rise is too early to blame the schools, it was climbing again at the end of July.
 

Mudgie

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The rise is too early to blame the schools, it was climbing again at the end of July.
But for week 37, from 7th to 13th September, "Education" accounted for 21% of outbreaks, and that's when school hadn't long been open.
During the same week "Food outlet / restaurant" accounted for only 5% of outbreaks.
 

Gadget

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There's now been a case at my daughter's school so that bubble is out for 2 weeks. One more case within that time frame and I'm going to speak to the school and keep her home. I'm sure she will be fine if she catches it but my vulnerable husband won't be and I don't really fancy getting it myself either. Having her home would halve our risk as it would only be Spawn2 who goes to college to worry about. School kids are dropping like nine pins here, who ever would have thought kids could be diseased creatures eh? :roll::facepalm:
 

Mudgie

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How do you know where you've caught it?
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Carole

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I ask the question again. Apart from care home residents, how do you know where you've caught it?

I agree @Lucy

If in typical day, you get the train to work, sit at your desk, then at lunchtime buy a sandwich in a town centre eatery.
Pop into the supermarket on the way home, pick the kids up from school.
Meet up with friends later for a coffee and a catch up while the kids play together then later on go to a restaurant for dinner then nip to the pub for last orders.

2 weeks later you’ve got coronavirus but how on earth do you know where you’ve caught it?
 

Mudgie

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I ask the question again. Apart from care home residents, how do you know where you've caught it?
Lucy,
I've not caught it.
I presume Public Health England compile those figures from where patients say they believe they caught it on first being treated by the NHS.
And it must include any "institution" that takes measures because any customer or member of staff there has it.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
But for week 37, from 7th to 13th September, "Education" accounted for 21% of outbreaks, and that's when school hadn't long been open.
During the same week "Food outlet / restaurant" accounted for only 5% of outbreaks.

Symptoms take 5 days to show, is this data by infections registered or expected date of infection?

In fact could you link me to the data? It's kind of my job so it's much easier for me to understand raw data than others interpretations.
 

Mudgie

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You have to have a major drink problem or simply be a complete tool to feel the need to do that.
Weekends have always been the only time of the week some people use pubs and it was the ridiculously limited noon to 2pm opening denying everyone leisurely Sunday afternoons drinking that at 2pm last orders on Sunday before 1988 caused a mad rush to the bar of the busiest pubs to get a last one in and everyone then leaving together.
Are you accusing me of having a major drink problem and/or simply being a complete tool ?
 
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