Do we need another supermarket - Morrisons?

Zylo

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More traffic? yay just what stafford needs..

at least it'll create more jobs... which everywhere in the country needs right now, just about.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Bugger, can anyone grab me a copy? Know someone very interested in this, and the affect it could have on the marshlands.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
I get errors in fetching the doc in IE, and FF just crashes the adobe plugin even after an update. Ditching the last 2 parameters gets me a png image, but it always ceases transmitting before I see about 10% :(
 

Gramaisc

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I get the 'error' now.

I did see it all once, though, and it basically covers everything form the Blind Centre to the back of M&S in either carparks or buildings, with a new set of lights(!) on the Queensway..

Edit:- Another attempt just now got me the top inch only..
 

Withnail

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gk141054 said:
Have tried saving a copy and hosting it myself...

Try this: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9127731/Morrisons.pdf
tek-monkey said:
Know someone very interested in this, and the affect it could have on the marshlands.
Compare and contrast

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/live/Documents/la21/biodiversity/Kingsmead_Plan.pdf (scroll down to Map no.2)

Easier to see if you have all three images

(ie http://www7.staffordbc.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=map&keyVal=LUN7S7PS45000 this one as well)

on the go at the same time. Not much affect on the marsh i wouldn't have thought - no more than having had a chuffing great road built over it anyway.



skillage gk - didn't work for me neither
 

Withnail

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tek-monkey said:
Planning » Application Constraints said:
Multiple (Spatial) Ancient Monument
Can anyone shed any light on this? Have tried to find Scheduled Ancient Monument status relating to Stafford Borough but can't find anything on-line.

I'm guessing that Kingsmead itself is an Ancient Monument? I'm hoping that Thieves Ditch is - they better not fill that in. I hope a decent amount of time for archaeological excavation is factored in to this development - and that Birmingham gets the gig on this one (still waiting for ULAS to say anything about the Stafford College dig...)
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Arse, acrobat keeps crashing my machine!

I believe the main concerns were that the woodland loss behind the blind center would proportionaly alter the habitat, and that having a well lit supermarket either side of the marsh could scare many of the natives away.
 

Withnail

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Hmm...

It does look like a fair bit of woodland would be lost, but not a huge amount in the context of the whole site.

What manner of native is it worried may be scared away?
 

My Name is URL

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Tek, have you ever considered foxit reader...

Much better than Acrobat IMHO, or certainly was better than the current Acrobat at the time I gave up on it for being so slow...
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
tek-monkey said:
and that having a well lit supermarket either side of the marsh could scare many of the natives away.
Surely there aren't many natives around these days, mostly Poles and Chinese, apparently - if you believe the Daily Mail...

And both unlikely to be scared away by a simple, brightly lit supermarket..
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
More attracted to I suspect!

As for the natives, I'll ask Andy for full details but I got this off the college website:

STUDENTS on the Countryside Management course at Stafford College have been using their expertise to carry out some habitat management work at Kingsmead Marsh Local Nature Reserve.

The students were invited onto the large wetland area close to the town centre, to create some new wildlife environments and survey the extent to which the urban reserve is attracting mammals and invertebrates.

Course leader Andy Taylor said that the students, who hope to work in conservation or estate management, have spent several days on the reserve this term. “We have been working on the reed beds, clearing willow scrub which was threatening to dry out sections of the marsh and creating new habitat spaces to encourage additional wildlife,” he said.

The students also carried out a survey of small mammals as part of a national count and found healthy populations of four different species of these creatures. There were encouraging results, too, from an invertebrate survey which highlighted the success of the reserve in attracting dragonfly.

“This was a really valuable experience for the students. We would like to thank Stafford Borough Council for inviting us onto Kingsmead Marsh and for generously providing tools to help the group to engage in a wide range of environmental projects,” said Andy Taylor. “This course includes a great deal of practical experience in different locations. This was an excellent means of understanding the important role of an urban wildlife haven on the edge of a busy town centre. The students gained a lot in terms of having a direct involvement in current work to promote biodiversity.”

Councillor Frank Finlay, cabinet member for environment and health, praised the contribution of the project, saying: “This is a good example of partnership work by the college and ourselves and the students did an excellent job at the nature reserve.
 

henryscat

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I believe the Morrisons plans are still on display, on exhibition boards in the County Council's reception at 1 Staffordshire Place.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
tek-monkey said:
Yet without planning permission if I read that right?
Indeed, but no doubt there's a 'subject to planning consent' clause somewhere - as if there's much doubt...
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
No doubt at all, those plans posted earlier were from September so I'm sure Clr Heenan has already given the nod.
 
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