My Name is URL
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Can you give me an idea of how many windows and what sizes you are having done michaelh?
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Hi, just had a very good quote from Valley windows based in Rugeley. nice man comes out and very friendly service. has a father and son who do the fitting and appear to be very professional. my uncle has used them and was very pleased hence his recommendation to me. Stafford UPVC quote £2500 more than this one!!!
1JKz
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gk14154040552105 - The work is for,
5 panel bay window X2(living room and bedroom)
small front bedroom with one of those fake bar thingies to make it match the bays
landing window
bathroom
back bedroom
and kitchen.
…all pretty standard sizes give or take a few centimetres, it's the bays that top up the quote.
Kazzybell - if you read my posts you'd have seen the difference in price is quite something, one thing I'd look out for and consider is which grade window you'd like, I'm going for A grade as I think you'd be daft not too, nobody wants to mop up condensation each winter morning on new windows because you went for a cheap grade C window quote!
I had to do this with the last lot of windows I bought in my old place as I hadn't done my homework back then on A grade windows.
Target are approx £2k more than SGS but that's because SGS had quoted me for C grade.
5 panel bay window X2(living room and bedroom)
small front bedroom with one of those fake bar thingies to make it match the bays
landing window
bathroom
back bedroom
and kitchen.
…all pretty standard sizes give or take a few centimetres, it's the bays that top up the quote.
Kazzybell - if you read my posts you'd have seen the difference in price is quite something, one thing I'd look out for and consider is which grade window you'd like, I'm going for A grade as I think you'd be daft not too, nobody wants to mop up condensation each winter morning on new windows because you went for a cheap grade C window quote!
I had to do this with the last lot of windows I bought in my old place as I hadn't done my homework back then on A grade windows.
Target are approx £2k more than SGS but that's because SGS had quoted me for C grade.
kilmaccumsey
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hi. i am still waiting for a few more quotes to come in.will report when i decide thanks all.
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Ha hamichaelh said:
Thanks for the info but i'm can't visualise.... is there a similar house on Right Move / Google Street View (if you wouldn't mind checking) or something that I could look at the sizes on??!?michaelh said:
1JKz
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very good detective work Gramaisc, but here you go, someone selling up near me with the same house, almost...
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27521131.html?backListLink=%2Fproperty-for-sale%2Fmap.html%3FlocationIdentifier%3DREGION%255E1255%26minPrice%3D150000%26maxPrice%3D190000%26includeSSTC%3Dtrue%26_includeSSTC%3Don%23_includeSSTC%3Don%26auction%3Dfalse%26includeSSTC%3Dtrue%26locationIdentifier%3DREGION%255E1255%26maxPrice%3D190000%26minPrice%3D150000%26previousSearchLocation%3DStafford%26radius%3D0.0%26searchLocation%3DStafford%26searchType%3DSALE%26useLocationIdentifier%3Dfalse%26box%3D-2.10942%2C-2.08041%2C52.79967%2C52.81801%26popupPropertyId%3D27521131%26mapType%3DMap&fromMap=true
did that work?
or like Gram says, a quick google map search using the 'little orange guy' will sort it.
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-27521131.html?backListLink=%2Fproperty-for-sale%2Fmap.html%3FlocationIdentifier%3DREGION%255E1255%26minPrice%3D150000%26maxPrice%3D190000%26includeSSTC%3Dtrue%26_includeSSTC%3Don%23_includeSSTC%3Don%26auction%3Dfalse%26includeSSTC%3Dtrue%26locationIdentifier%3DREGION%255E1255%26maxPrice%3D190000%26minPrice%3D150000%26previousSearchLocation%3DStafford%26radius%3D0.0%26searchLocation%3DStafford%26searchType%3DSALE%26useLocationIdentifier%3Dfalse%26box%3D-2.10942%2C-2.08041%2C52.79967%2C52.81801%26popupPropertyId%3D27521131%26mapType%3DMap&fromMap=true
did that work?
or like Gram says, a quick google map search using the 'little orange guy' will sort it.
My Name is URL
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+1 skill for both of you.
Thanks.
Thanks.
kilmaccumsey
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Central windows £600 cheaper than Target just waiting for another quote to come in..
How do you know what grade the windows are? I've had several quotes and not one of them have mentioned the grade of Window. SGS is the cheapest for us though. Did you specifically ask for a grade of window or is it a standard grade SGS use?michaelh said:
And is 'grade' of window? glass? the correct terminology if I ring up and ask these companies what there using.
And what are the difference in these grades of windows? I'm struggling to find anything on google. All that seems to pop up is energy efficiency ratings.
thanks.
Thank you, so the grade of window is in respect to the energy efficency of them. I was worried it may refer to the quality, i.e. workmanship of the product. Any window will be better then the Secondary single glazing we have had for the last 20+ years 
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In my SGS quote it says Glazed 28mm Low 'E' Sealed Units. I take it that means there E grade? That must mean there pretty bad?
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In my SGS quote it says Glazed 28mm Low 'E' Sealed Units. I take it that means there E grade? That must mean there pretty bad?
versocomms
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Another good local guy you might want to consider is Steve Stone from Window Care. He lives in Brocton and his number is 01785 663232.
well for anyone interested I found out that the Energy Rating/label for windows ran by the BRFC is a voluntary scheme. You would think this would be a legal obligation.
The windows are messured in three areas which attribute to its overall Grade.
Thernal Transmittance - rate of transfer of heat (in watts) through one square metre
Solar Factor - Solar heat gain from light that passes though the glass
Effective Air Leaage - Draughts
Energy Saving Trust (part funded by the goverment) say any window that is rated at a C or higher will provide adequate savings on the heating and cooling bill.
I also found out the difference of A grade windows to C grade is as little as 10%. Although due to the grade system used that should actually be 20% < 10%.
That would suggest that A grade windows dont warrant the huge price increase. C is perfectly fine.
I think I read the difference in saving is around £100 a year, but I'm pretty sure that figure was given for single glazing to an average double. Which means the actually difference between A and C is actually 30% of £100, around £30.
If you factor in the massive 2k+ price increase and devide that by £30 a year it would be 66 years before you saw a return on your investment. Even at £100 saving a year that would be 20 years before you saw a return.
The windows are messured in three areas which attribute to its overall Grade.
Thernal Transmittance - rate of transfer of heat (in watts) through one square metre
Solar Factor - Solar heat gain from light that passes though the glass
Effective Air Leaage - Draughts
Energy Saving Trust (part funded by the goverment) say any window that is rated at a C or higher will provide adequate savings on the heating and cooling bill.
Bascially dont go below C, no matter the saving.
I also found out the difference of A grade windows to C grade is as little as 10%. Although due to the grade system used that should actually be 20% < 10%.
That would suggest that A grade windows dont warrant the huge price increase. C is perfectly fine.
I think I read the difference in saving is around £100 a year, but I'm pretty sure that figure was given for single glazing to an average double. Which means the actually difference between A and C is actually 30% of £100, around £30.
If you factor in the massive 2k+ price increase and devide that by £30 a year it would be 66 years before you saw a return on your investment. Even at £100 saving a year that would be 20 years before you saw a return.
staffordjas
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I recommended Target in a previous thread. But wouldn't recommend them anymore!
After going to their sales room in Stone and enquiring about getting a new back door put in,the sales bloke just wasn't interested because it was only a small job. He quoted some ridiculous price and said WE had to ring his colleague ourselves to arrange an exact quote as 'He was far too busy'.
We then drove to SGS on Astonfields and got excellent service from them. We saved a fortune and they did a very good job.
So my recommendation is now SGS and I would use them for any future doors and windows without hesitation.
After going to their sales room in Stone and enquiring about getting a new back door put in,the sales bloke just wasn't interested because it was only a small job. He quoted some ridiculous price and said WE had to ring his colleague ourselves to arrange an exact quote as 'He was far too busy'.
We then drove to SGS on Astonfields and got excellent service from them. We saved a fortune and they did a very good job.
So my recommendation is now SGS
and I would use them for any future doors and windows without hesitation.Thanks, SGS have given us the best quote so far. Although we have a friend of a family who used to work for a company and install them had told us to go to Classic windows on tilcon avenue.staffordjas said:I recommended Target in a previous thread. But wouldn't recommend them anymore!
After going to their sales room in Stone and enquiring about getting a new back door put in,the sales bloke just wasn't interested because it was only a small job. He quoted some ridiculous price and said WE had to ring his colleague ourselves to arrange an exact quote as 'He was far too busy'.
We then drove to SGS on Astonfields and got excellent service from them. We saved a fortune and they did a very good job.
So my recommendation is now SGS
He also confirmed if you had a room with Grade A windows and another with grade C you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. He also explained the difference in there build is tiny and the price increase very small, not thousands of pounds. So don't get caught out with stupid price increases.
I guess that also means you should go for grade A, but not the end of the world.
1JKz
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i would almost recommend SGS also, hell i got my two last door pur'chasies from them, the boss man is a proper nice fella but the latest dealings with them have been a little of putting and the guy who came last was abit of a drip (sorry if you're listening!)
...back to thread (almost); there's a reason why windows are graded from A through to whatever C, D, Z even or else why is there a grading system at all, and of course there's always going to be a small variation in price from company to company but it's who you feel you'd like to go with and reasons why etc, can't just be based entirely around price.
This is why, me personally, had to go through i think 6 companies overall and have opted to go with Target, choice made, no going back, they haven't taken any money from me, it's that i've good vibes about them it's that simple.
everyone's input helps though don't you think.
we shall see, i'll have the windows done within a month or so and it'll be interesting looking back at what i've put in this thread, haa...
...back to thread (almost); there's a reason why windows are graded from A through to whatever C, D, Z even or else why is there a grading system at all, and of course there's always going to be a small variation in price from company to company but it's who you feel you'd like to go with and reasons why etc, can't just be based entirely around price.
This is why, me personally, had to go through i think 6 companies overall and have opted to go with Target, choice made, no going back, they haven't taken any money from me, it's that i've good vibes about them it's that simple.
everyone's input helps though don't you think.
we shall see, i'll have the windows done within a month or so and it'll be interesting looking back at what i've put in this thread, haa...
kilmaccumsey
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thanks all useful info. i still havent decided ,so wil be interested in how you get on with target.
I've read up about this today for those interestedmichaelh said:
The grading is just a energy efficiency scale. The Scale is A to G. The difference of A to C is minimal. The price difference from A to C is also minimal. The rating is optional by the manufacturer although being enforced in the next year. This is to do with Meeting the carbon footprint standard of every household in the country in accordance with EU directives.
The end result is that every product (boilers, washing machine, fridge, cars, lights etc) in your household will have an energy efficiency rating of at least C. All to do with lowering carbon emissions.
What's my point? Don't confuse a grade A windows with impeccable quality. You could have a grade A window with poor workmanship I.e. efficient windows that fell apart after 3 years.
I guess with reputable company these factors will come hand in hand, but just a warning that Grade A don't make them better. Its just a efficiency rating.