John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
I predict the health of the Prime Minister will become a major issue
Although Major won't
Although Major won't
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General Election 2017
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Withnail
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I have had the privilege to vote in quite a number of General Elections now.
Living in all sorts of places, I have made my mark in all sorts of boxes.
One thing i have always strived to have done is to deny a Tory his/her seat.
In this endeavour i have placed my X in a Labour, Lib Dem, and a Green box upon the way - i once voted as a resident of Windsor, which was the emancipation equivalent of pissing into the prevailing winds - always with the object of unhorsing the rider.
Quite apart from anything else, and the 'anything else' in these quarters is the entirety of the Thatcher years, it is the sheer hubris of the feckers that gets me - even more so this time around.
Living in all sorts of places, I have made my mark in all sorts of boxes.
One thing i have always strived to have done is to deny a Tory his/her seat.
In this endeavour i have placed my X in a Labour, Lib Dem, and a Green box upon the way - i once voted as a resident of Windsor, which was the emancipation equivalent of pissing into the prevailing winds - always with the object of unhorsing the rider.
Quite apart from anything else, and the 'anything else' in these quarters is the entirety of the Thatcher years, it is the sheer hubris of the feckers that gets me - even more so this time around.
kyoto49
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PLEASE PLEASE dont vote Tory and be resonsible for leting this happen 
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017...ivate-us-healthcare-system-kaiser-permanente/
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017...ivate-us-healthcare-system-kaiser-permanente/
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
I know of someone (family members partner) that just had a transplant that would be dead if the Tories had their way, kinda brings it home.
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
This is a rushed election before the people who voted LEAVE and those who vote Conservative attempt to understand the disaster that will be BREXIT .
I say attempt because a lot of these people never will
I say attempt because a lot of these people never will
Jonah
Spouting nonsense since the day I learned to talk
Gramaisc
Forum O. G.
People may not be that bothered, as long as schools continue to provide child captivity facilities.
tek-monkey
wanna see my snake?
You've lost me?
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
John Marwood
I ♥ cryptic crosswords
Mikinton
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kyoto49
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What were the odds on Trump winning and Brexit I wonder!
Mikinton
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Here's the one for Brexit.
The vote to leave looks like it hovers around between 3/1 and 6/4. In the days running up to the vote it looks like 6/4 until it lengthened at the last minute to around 2/1 (presumably on the back of 4 late polls saying Remain would win compared to 2 saying it would be Leave).
For Trump, there's this.
The odds of a Trump win closed from around 25 to 1 in August 2015 when he first announced his campaign, or a return 25 times the initial investment, according to Krishnamurty, down to 6 to 4 ahead of the first presidential debate, and 5 to 1 on Tuesday night.
The vote to leave looks like it hovers around between 3/1 and 6/4. In the days running up to the vote it looks like 6/4 until it lengthened at the last minute to around 2/1 (presumably on the back of 4 late polls saying Remain would win compared to 2 saying it would be Leave).
For Trump, there's this.
The odds of a Trump win closed from around 25 to 1 in August 2015 when he first announced his campaign, or a return 25 times the initial investment, according to Krishnamurty, down to 6 to 4 ahead of the first presidential debate, and 5 to 1 on Tuesday night.
kyoto49
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Cheers. Betting odds are a very inaccurate way of predicting the outcome of any public vote is what I deem from these!
proactive
Enjoying a drop of red.
So are opinion polls...Cheers. Betting odds are a very inaccurate way of predicting the outcome of any public vote is what I deem from these!
Mikinton
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That's usually the fault of the press and the public who tend to ignore the "margin of error" caveat. (Usually about 3 percentage points, so not much comfort for Jeremy Corbyn just yet.)
Part of the problem is, having asked about someone's voting intentions, they're unable to gauge the likelihood of this vote materialising. The result is that Conservative votes are understated while Labour votes are overstated (tories are more likely to actually turn up and vote).
Looking back to last year, opinion polls during the month before the EU referendum were split 50-50, though they were 4-2 in favour of Remain the day before apparently.
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Mikinton
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I tend to think they're the best we've got, though that may not be saying very much.Cheers. Betting odds are a very inaccurate way of predicting the outcome of any public vote is what I deem from these!
People willing to back their judgement with hard cash always seemed (to me at least) a good way of gauging things, though I acknowledge they may be backing a trend rather than the final result. (I backed Macron at 6/1, to some extent because his chances were better than that implied by that price and I might later like to cash in, say when his price had dropped to 3/1.)
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