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Leave or Remain?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by andy w, Jan 29, 2016.

  1. Mikinton

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    I tried to get to my taxi
    The man in a tracksuit attacks me
    He said that he saw it before me
    And wants to get things a bit gory
    Girls scrabble round with no clothes on
    To borrow a pound for a condom
    If it wasn't for chip fat they'd be frozen
    they're not very sensible
     
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    People have been handed a photograph of a spade - they may sit back and see how far they can dig with it.
     
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    Don't forget.

    It's not as complicated as people try to make it.

    As things stand it could all stop tomorrow.

    But...

    there is only one way to make that happen, and that is to 'revoke' - to in effect say 'd'you know what, i think i've changed my mind, this is not such a good idea after all'.

    This is not without risk - lots of people who have not changed their minds would be a bit pissed off that we acted like they had done. But which ever way we progress attracts a certain level of risk.

    Thus...

    this is a manageable state of affairs, and will only become more manageable as time progresses.

    It is literally the easiest means of managing the alternative risks that face us.

    A spade can be both a cold forged steel implement designed for optimum ground breaking, and a spade - it needn't be just one or the other or neither just to be a complete dick about it.
     
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    Perhaps the most important thing to remember is that, right now, we can change our minds and pretend that nothing has happened.

    Having initiated our desire to quit the Union via Article 50 we had two years to negotiate the way it would work.

    It has been adjudged that we can withdraw our notice to leave the Union unilaterally without changing the arrangements we currently enjoy - outside of Schengen, the Eurozone, with our rebate, all of those sorts of special arrangements - the 'Deal' if you will, that we currently enjoy - by revoking our notice to leave the European Union, and to keep that preferential Deal in place.

    We have already took the piss twice.

    As soon as we agree to any sort of Withdrawal Agreement, as soon as that notice to leave is accepted and enshrined in law, our ability to withdraw our Article 50 application ends.

    So if we actually Leave, and realise before the 50 years that Cream-Cracker reckons we'll need to do well out of it, that 50 years is a long time to wait and actually i'm hungry now, we could just as easily reapply to join in Brexit Date +1, or +2 or etc...

    Well of course - France and Scotland might have their doubts but we might still have enough friends - we'll have to join the Eurozone though, and completely open the borders to comply with the Schengen Zone, so it won't be quite the same arrangements as before, but we all have to make adjustments to reality don't we?
     
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    I have just gone through the bonus red tape activity of applying for a green card, in case this farce does ever reach a conclusion.

    It is of interest to note that Irish-registered cars will still not need a green card to drive in the UK, the industry there has just effectively just given every policy a blanket card to cover the policy's valid period - but the British love of (their own) futile bureaucracy seems to revel in adding pointless difficulties for people.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2019/0823/1070421-irish-insurance-discs/
     
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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    If you think that was bad, try finding your way through what may or not become the regulations for exporting goods or taking goods overseas and then bringing them back to the UK. The unnecessaryness of it all is just so depressing. The amount of my life wasted, that I will never get back...

    Not to mention the worry that if I have made even a tiny mistake, having the goods in the wrong place or impounded for a period of time could well put me out of business.

    It really would be much simpler to relocate to Europe and take the hit on the UK business I might lose as a result.
     
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    Stop whingeing - all the information you need is provided here.

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    proactive Behind you with a big stick!

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    If the sign was bigger they could have fitted the rest of the instruction on it which reads "and then bang your head repeatedly against a wall at the futility of it all. Then relocate to somewhere decent."
     
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    That seems likely to be the best policy.
     
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    I get the impression you two are trying to spoil the 'short selling' plans the Rees-Moggy faction has to become billionaires. :rolleyes:
     
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    There does seem to be a lot of insider trading going on...
     
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    Brexit Fatigue (or Corbyn droning on)?

    https://twitter.com/VeryBigNews/status/1186640637795491840

    I expect Barry's been up all night reading those 120 pages.

    Why they didn't just say "Oi .... you twenty. Read these 10 pages and tell us what you think. ..... Right, next twenty. Read these 10 pages. ..... Next twenty .... " etc etc
     
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    I watched the Stormont meeting on Monday live and direct.

    It was interesting, if short lived.

    The 'Traditional Unionist Voice' geezer was so anachronistic it was like hearing aftershocks of one hundred year old tremors.

    Now you can have an abortion without having to travel to Liverpool, Manchester or London.

    It is almost unbelievable that we have this conversation - all the more so when in the context of the false narrative of the DUP insisting that there can be absolutely NO divergence between UK and NI legislative alignment, except on these issues, obviously...

    If you want to marry the man, if you are a man, or the woman, if you are a woman, that you love, you now can - and your Husband/Wife will now become your beneficiary, like you wanted them to be because you loved them when you lived.

    If you have an argument against that fundamental idea i would certainly enjoy hearing it.
     
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    Our future in her hands.

    Comforting.
     

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