Meadow Road Park -dogs banned

[Jonah]

The minority yet again spoil it for the majority of responsible dog owners.

 

[Jonah]

The Dog Control Order isn't anything new though:

http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/dog-control-orders

Thanks for that, useful information.

 

[Darren]

Reading this http://www.staffordbc.gov.uk/dog-control-orders it seems the council make it up as they want after all
Dogs are excluded from:

• All children's equipped play areas, whether enclosed or unenclosed
• Bowling Greens
• Tennis Courts
• Skate Parks
• Paddling Pools
• Wet/Water Play Areas
• Multi-use games and the athletics enclosure at Rowley Park

So how come dogs are allowed on there leads to go here:

• Victoria Park, Stafford
• Stonefield Park, Stone
• Rowley Park, Stafford
• And all cemeteries, including church yards run by the Council

 

[littleme]

I don't think its just about the dog mess, its about children being able play in safety in parks.

Despite having owned dogs, and there being dogs in our extended family, my 7yr old has developed a fear of dogs We take her to Rowley Park to play as dogs are supposed to be kept on leads there, but more often than not the dogs are loose...

So, poor old doggys come bounding over just wanting a bit of fuss and my daughter dissolves into screaming hysterics I have to spend the next 10mins apologizing to the dog owner whilst trying to calm screaming child at the same time. People.often also bring their dogs into the gated play area, or tie them just outside which can be equally terrifying to a child.

I don't see why designated doggy parks are such a bad idea?

 

[Darren]

I don't think its just about the dog mess, its about children being able play in safety in parks.

Despite having owned dogs, and there being dogs in our extended family, my 7yr old has developed a fear of dogs We take her to Rowley Park to play as dogs are supposed to be kept on leads there, but more often than not the dogs are loose...

So, poor old doggys come bounding over just wanting a bit of fuss and my daughter dissolves into screaming hysterics I have to spend the next 10mins apologizing to the dog owner whilst trying to calm screaming child at the same time. People.often also bring their dogs into the gated play area, or tie them just outside which can be equally terrifying to a child.

I don't see why designated doggy parks are such a bad idea?

I feel sorry for your child having a phobia of dogs but dog owners should not be singled out and treated like this because of a few bad dog owners if people think that is fair then surely kids should also be banned due to the few bad ones who sit around drinking and smoking in parks.

 

[Jonah]

I don't think its just about the dog mess, its about children being able play in safety in parks.

Despite having owned dogs, and there being dogs in our extended family, my 7yr old has developed a fear of dogs We take her to Rowley Park to play as dogs are supposed to be kept on leads there, but more often than not the dogs are loose...

So, poor old doggys come bounding over just wanting a bit of fuss and my daughter dissolves into screaming hysterics I have to spend the next 10mins apologizing to the dog owner whilst trying to calm screaming child at the same time. People.often also bring their dogs into the gated play area, or tie them just outside which can be equally terrifying to a child.

I don't see why designated doggy parks are such a bad idea?

You don't have any need to apologise to the dog owner. If my dogs frightened a child, it would be me apologising.

There really is only one way for you child to overcome her fear of dogs and that's through exposure to them. Unfortunately, it's not as easy as that as you will well know. I hope you can help her overcome her fear of dogs.

 

[Lunar Scorpion]

Call me silly but i live on silkmore who should i contact from that list?

Penkside Ward I believe (I used to live there).

 

[Darren]

Penkside Ward I believe (I used to live there).

Thank you.

 

[littleme]

....kids should also be banned due to the few bad ones who sit around drinking and smoking in parks.

I agree totally, this is a much worse problem than dogs being in parks, and is also the reason that we travel across town to Rowley Park rather than use the one in our area!

I always feel the need to apologise, dogs are hugely friendly creatures and are always attracted to children and just want a fuss...its not their fault, we had a huge Golden Retrieve for many years and my daughter was fine with him...and she's getting better with dogs, but only if they are on a short lead or being carried. Still, I find its quite horrible and embarrassing for the dog owner when my daughter makes a scene.

 

[Gramaisc]

dogs are hugely friendly creatures and are always attracted to children and just want a fuss...its not their fault, we had a huge Golden Retrieve for many years and my daughter was fine with him...and she's getting better with dogs, but only if they are on a short lead or being carried. Still, I find its quite horrible and embarrassing for the dog owner when my daughter makes a scene.

There could be a size issue - I know somebody that can't even look at a photo of a decent spider, yet is happy for tiny ones to crawl on her hand..

 

[Darren]

My misses was also afraid of dogs due to an incident when she was a child i grew up with dogs so i convinced her to allow us to get a dog around 5 years ago so i did my homework and got a lurcher, she now loves dogs, having said that this ban on Meadow Park is not fair and it is double standards after all dogs are allowed in Rowley park and Town park as long as there on leads as far as i am concerned both those places have a lot of the same kids things as Meadow park so why a complete ban for one and not the others, i have emailed my counselor so i guess i will wait and see his response if any.

 

[Jonah]

I agree totally, this is a much worse problem than dogs being in parks, and is also the reason that we travel across town to Rowley Park rather than use the one in our area!

I always feel the need to apologise, dogs are hugely friendly creatures and are always attracted to children and just want a fuss...its not their fault, we had a huge Golden Retrieve for many years and my daughter was fine with him...and she's getting better with dogs, but only if they are on a short lead or being carried. Still, I find its quite horrible and embarrassing for the dog owner when my daughter makes a scene.

No it's not the dogs fault, it's the owners. Dog owners who let their dogs run around without the appropriate supervision need educating about their dog's behaviour. You are not at fault and have absolutely no need to apologise.

Read this article about dogs who "just want to say 'hi'!"

http://www.suzanneclothier.com/the-articles/he-just-wants-say-hi

It's mainly about dog to dog behaviour but I think it applies to dog to human interaction as well.

 

[littleme]

There could be a size issue - I know somebody that can't even look at a photo of a decent spider, yet is happy for tiny ones to crawl on her hand..

No we know what the issue is...My patents bought a new dog (Kerry Blue, so medium sized) about 3 years ago, he nips my daughters arms and chest (wanting to play) and constantly jumps up at her, the nips have been bad enough to cause bruising although haven't broken the skin but my parents refuse to accept that he nips (he's only playing) and have refused to tell him off or put him in another room when we visit (he's part of our family and we don't ask you to put your son in another room when we visit). This leads to daughter having to sit on the sofa with her legs up so he can't get at her and she's terrified to move, she doesn't even want to visit her grandparents because of this. What she doesn't know is that my parents used to own the dogs brother who had to be euthanised after attacking my father many times when they had taken him on as a rescue dog and hadn't been told about the dogs problem with men.

 

[Gramaisc]

Seems fair enough - not really an 'irrational response' in this case....

 

[Jonah]

No we know what the issue is...My patents bought a new dog (Kerry Blue, so medium sized) about 3 years ago, he nips my daughters arms and chest (wanting to play) and constantly jumps up at her, the nips have been bad enough to cause bruising although haven't broken the skin but my parents refuse to accept that he nips (he's only playing) and have refused to tell him off or put him in another room when we visit (he's part of our family and we don't ask you to put your son in another room when we visit). This leads to daughter having to sit on the sofa with her legs up so he can't get at her and she's terrified to move, she doesn't even want to visit her grandparents because of this. What she doesn't know is that my parents used to own the dogs brother who had to be euthanised after attacking my father many times when they had taken him on as a rescue dog and hadn't been told about the dogs problem with men.

I don't mean to be rude about your parents but they are being totally irresponsible when it comes to their dog. The dog needs to learn that biting is not acceptable behaviour.

 

[littleme]

I don't mean to be rude about your parents but they are being totally irresponsible when it comes to their dog. The dog needs to learn that biting is not acceptable behaviour.

I know - I can't understand it as they've been responsible dog owners for years, but they just won't knowledge the problem. The only good thing is that they are away for a good 6months of the year, so we only have the trauma of visiting during winter

i have emailed my counselor so i guess i will wait and see his response if any.

I hope you manage to get the ban reversed so you could at least walk your dog on a lead at the park, it seems highly unfair when its allowed on other parks.

 

[flossietoo]

Alternatively, you accept the ban and understand that another previously public space has been given over to parents and children.

Then, each time you see an example of bad or antisocial behaviour by a member of society's elite, you 'phone the council and demand a blanket ban.

I can't see how they could refuse really, having set such an ill thought out precedent in the first place.

 

[Roland]

I don't own a dog (I'm more a cat person) but I think your idea that there should be "special" areas for dog walkers is unfair. Dog walkers should be able to mix and use open spaces just like anyone else, but with the proviso that they clean up after their pets. Unfortunately there are some who simply don't do this and thus ruin it for everyone.

I'm sure there are responsible dog walkers who don't like treading in other people's dog muck too.

Have proper enforcement for the guilty rather than penalising everyone.

I own a dog and know it is not always possible to clean up properly after your dog, if they have eaten something tht does not agree with them then it can be a sloppy mess!

 

[Perrier]

same, my dalmation has to be fed a special food otherwise he would literally poo blood.
if he manages to get hold of his favourite nibble ( cat poo ) . then its even worse.
.... as well as dog poo bags, I have to take plastic carrier bags too !!

 

[ally66]

I believe it's that tiny, rarely cut bit of field, with a couple of swings in it and loads of dogs that crap everywhere, running parallel with Meadow Road on the Co-Op side of it.

Calling it a park is a bit of a stretch though.

Its not tiny.
The grass is cut regularly.
In addition to the swings there is a bmx track, basketball court, zip wire, skate park, outdoor gym, young kids play area and more.

So I guess you haven't been for a while.

But you are of course an expert on how many dogs crap on the park in spite of the fact you haven't clapped eyes on the place for years.

Thanks for your input.