Riots in Tottenham

[John Marwood]

Your Conservative Prime Minister - on holiday

Your Conservative Mayor of London - on holiday

Are they not entitled to a holiday then...?

Yes but not at the same time as the Deputy Prime Minister, The Chancellor ( real number 2 ) and Doris who makes the tea at number nine, the real number 1

Fookin rotas!


Clearly they didnt fookin av em at Eton!

 

[John Marwood]

Is it actually a riot?

Or a series of seperate disturbances?

It will become important to establish this later

We have discussed this distinction in an earlier thread.

So no then

 

[Gramaisc]

Your Conservative Prime Minister - on holiday

Your Conservative Mayor of London - on holiday

Are they not entitled to a holiday then...?

Yes but not at the same time as the Deputy Prime Minister, The Chancellor ( real number 2 ) and Doris who makes the tea at number nine, the real number 1

Fookin rotas!


Clearly they didnt fookin av em at Eton!

Surely they could get somebody to go on holiday for them.

 

[John Marwood]

Are they not entitled to a holiday then...?

Yes but not at the same time as the Deputy Prime Minister, The Chancellor ( real number 2 ) and Doris who makes the tea at number nine, the real number 1

Fookin rotas!


Clearly they didnt fookin av em at Eton!

Surely they could get somebody to go on holiday for them.

Fag Choice?

De Bois done good

 

[John Marwood]

This

http://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/488059.html

Is how it works

 

[ddub1984]

He is 29 not 20 and the Police stopped a cab he was in. If he had co-operated with the Police then he wouldn't have been shot. But obviously he had a firearm or some other weapon.

The Police don't shoot unless they feel there is a serious danger to the public from an individual.

Local people have painted a picture of him being a model citizen with his family and 4 children. But that doesn't mean anything if he also carries a gun?

Exactly. This isnt the US, armed police here are trained to use their guns only as an absolute last resort. The vast majority of police armed responses do not end up with the police using their guns. The bloke that died was a criminal carrying a gun, he shot at the police, what are they supposed to do, ask him nicely to stop & would he mind if they put some handcuffs on him?

I feel sorry for the police in all this, they really are damned if they do, damned if they dont. If they had deployed 100 riot police straight away to what was initially supposed to be a peaceful vigil from family & friends they would be criticised for a heavy-handed approach, aggravating the situation. As it is they are being criticised for not doing enough. They got criticised for using their batons on protestors in the student riots, sometimes vilified in the press, what are they supposed to do? The people rioting last night were criminals, not protestors, & they should have all had a baton round the head if you ask me. But of course you cant do that can you, its not fair on the poor criminals. Justice in this country is a joke- it needs to be much tougher & people should stop criticising the police & start respecting them for the very difficult job they do.

 

[Hetairoi]

There is rioting and looting in Enfield tonight.

Call out the National Guard i say!

 

[ddub1984]

Enfield sounds like it could potentially be just as bad, a teenagers been stabbed apparently. Regular updates from this guy on Twitter, hes a journalist there at the moment: http://twitter.com/#!/PaulLewis

 

[ddub1984]

Have also seen pictures of cars on fire & reports of people throwing petrol bombs randomly at cars driving by... so glad I dont live in London right now!!

 

[John Marwood]

The Olympic Flame is lit, look how prettily it burns

Here is the Team GB medal tally to date



Politicians fiddling ( criminally ) their expenses

All powerful media hacking ( criminally ) phones and computers

Police officers taking bribes ( criminally ) for information and overlooking criminality


And whilst the Old Etonians ( leaders my arse) dine on quail eggs in their luxury holiday overseas villas,London burns to the stench of anger, frustration and hopelessness

Why is anyone surprised

If you have no hope there is none


PS if wet in village hall

 

[basil]

Ossies Dream now a nighmare .....

 

[John Marwood]

Ossies Dream now a nighmare .....

Trembly knees?

 

[flossietoo]

I must admit it was difficult to feel sympathy for the people on the street having heard one of them explain: "The community is angry. They have broken into electrical shops and JJB Sports." Quite. I know when I am angry, what really hits the spot is a new pair of trainers and an ipad. I do try very hard to keep my politics as far away from my mothers' as possible but...when sympathetic figures rushed to explain that the reason why all these young people were carrying large piles of electrical goods was because of a failure in police communication...no, numpty, that's not a protest, that's a riot.

 

[tek-monkey]

Some were protesting, others used the police distraction for financial gain, they all get branded the same though.

 

[Hetairoi]

Some were protesting, others used the police distraction for financial gain, they all get branded the same though.

Why do you need to protest before the results of official enquiry?

I think the policing is far too 'sympathetic', use tear gas and rubber bullets on them or are they too scared of being called 'rascist'?

 

[tek-monkey]

Some depressing pictures on flikr, you'd think with all the looting of clothes shops a camel toe like this wouldn't be seen. Although now there is suggestion it was another copper that fired the shot, but a gun was still found at the scene (poss not on him?).

Whatever, burning down buildings and robbing shops is a sure way to make your community a better place. Enjoy living in the shithole you've helped make

 

[tek-monkey]

Why do you need to protest before the results of official enquiry?

I think the policing is far too 'sympathetic', use tear gas and rubber bullets on them or are they too scared of being called 'rascist'?

If you wait for an official enquiry you'll be waiting a long time, people are ****** off and angry. Still no excuse for being thieving chav scum though, I'd happily have the looters shot TBH.

 

[basil]

Now we have the sickening scénario of 'copycat' riots and Stafford is not immune, there is news that à door was slammed in Hillcroft Park late last night......

 

[John Marwood]

The moment the Police realised the Home Secretary was back from her holidays

Her PA is not too impressed

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHOIaqY_1_U

contains a rude word or two...

 

[Hetairoi]

Why do you need to protest before the results of official enquiry?

I think the policing is far too 'sympathetic', use tear gas and rubber bullets on them or are they too scared of being called 'rascist'?

If you wait for an official enquiry you'll be waiting a long time, people are ****** off and angry. Still no excuse for being thieving chav scum though, I'd happily have the looters shot TBH.

'People are angry and pissed off' that a known drug dealer and criminal known to be involved with gun crime has been shot dead?

They should be dancing in the street!