Rugby Club progress...

kyoto49

kyoto49

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WoolmanT said:
I am not deluded, I do get it, there's no need to feel sorry for me.....I sleep easily at night. I am or will be proud of the excellent community sports facility when it is built.....which will see hundreds of children running around, playing every Sunday.

Are you angry with all the houses being built in the area, wind turbines going up, the ever expanding business parks at the north of the town, increased development of the MOD camp......or do you just reserve your anger for a sports club being relocated by its landlord?

I appreciate that a number of people are against the site, yourself included but do you not think that there are a lot of people that strongly support it?
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The MOD site was a brownfield site, no fields were lost in this development. You get the difference yeah? Wind turbines are required for energy, and are a greener form of producing energy than most forms or energy production. Last time I looked they didn't cause the destruction of whole eco systems that had existed for hundreds of years, the trees, the wildlife, the fields, the hedges etc etc.

I'm absolutely against the vastness of development going on around the north of Stafford and the Tixall Road, to name a few, and I've expressed my disgust at what the council is doing to our turn regularly. We're becoming a commuter town with no heart.

I have yet to find a single person that strongly supports the rugby club ON THAT SPECIFIC SITE. Which bit of that is difficult for you. I also can't find anyone who doesn't agree the rugby club deserves a new home, It's the location that is the issue here. No-one has ever provided a good reason for this site to be destroyed, apart from the landowners greed in turfing you out of your existing home. If money was the only thng holding you back from buying a few fields in a less sensitive location then you really didn;t try hard enough. You took the easy option and put a big V up to anyone who didn;t like it.

Finally, had you had genuinely tried to work with Staffordshire WIldlife Trusts concerns, kept the trees and hedges where possible, not had the fence, sorted out the upcoming parking debacle, and considered the majority of the people of Stafford who don't like rugby, and the even larger nuymber who don't participate you might have garnerd some support. As it is you've managed to piss off local residents, those who care for our urban environment, those who care for nature, and those who care about the legacy we leave our kids. Quite some spectacular achievement that considering it was all so unnecessary.
 
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WoolmanT

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kyoto49 said:
Er, I'm not a neighbour! And your fence was always in your plans so don't try and lie and say it is because you have angry neighbours. You only gained angry neighbours through your disregard for anyone or anything other than yourselves.........

I assume you're being deliberately obtuse?? Kids don't need to actually be on the site to benefit. The betterment of our natural world benefits us all directly and indirectly. Having said that maybe you should open your eyes, as I've seen kids regulalry building dens in those hedges and playing in those fields over the long summer holidays.........

Nice that you fail to answer my other statements and questions. I can only take your silence as vindication that I'm correct.
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I'm not lying, I asked a question. We met with the residents, I appreciate their concerns but they were only ever going to be angry because it is human nature to be resistant to change....especially when that change is happening in their back yard.

If it's such a bad idea and we are such evil people, why has it been approved so many times and how come numerous judges have now thrown out judicial reviews / residents objections? I await your conspiracy theory reply.

You are correct? Ummmm, as I guess we are at polar opposites on this matter, I definitely don't think you are correct - in the same way as I'm not right or wrong. I have my view which isn't going to change and you have yours.

I guess the only difference here is you are angry because you are not getting your own way.
 
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alphagamma

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re, growing a pair, I've observed that retired rugby players tend to put on a lot of weight and grow a pair of something else, i.e. moobs.
 
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alphagamma

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markpa12003 said:
I feel a little sorry for WoolmanT / stafford rugby club. He can't be held accountable for sbc allocating part of the former rugby land for a housing allocation and, therefore, making them homeless. He also can't be blamed because the landowner (lord stafford) wants to sell his land to a developer to make him even richer. I also don't see how WoolmanT can be blamed for the underhand / devious / corrupt / incomprehensible decision by sbc to refuse the hockey club application.

I don't like the new location of the rugby club. However, the site is available, suitable and deliverable etc and I know from 1st hand experience how useless sbc are in assisting existing sports club relocate. I've held meetings with sbc about relocating a very succesful sports club to beaconside and was basically told to f*ck off, as such whilst I believe beaconside could have been a fantastic sports complex for a number of sports, as well as a great community asset, our council are too stupid / incompetent to make this a reality.

People's anger should be directed towards Adam Hill; Ted Manders and sbc.
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Not much sympathy here for Woolmal if he has any involvement with council employees also acting as directors of private companies.
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WoolmanT

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alphagamma said:
re, growing a pair, I've observed that retired rugby players tend to put on a lot of weight and grow a pair of something else, i.e. moobs.
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Do you spend quite a lot of time observing retired rugby players? I've never heard of that hobby.....train spotting yes, retired rugby player spotting no. I'm not retired, so no moobs here thank you. Have you grown a pair?
 
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WoolmanT

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Gareth said:
Hope nature takes it back and no doubt it will with the amount of water in that area.

Just hope when the rugby club gets going they do a far better clearing up after their 50 or so supporters after. Because it is left to the residence of castlefieldd currently.
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Gareth, thanks for your note. I believe the plan is to raise the pitches, so hopefully your wish of a flooded rugby club won't come true. That said, you are correct about the amount of water in the area.
 
kyoto49

kyoto49

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Gareth said:
Hope nature takes it back and no doubt it will with the amount of water in that area.

Just hope when the rugby club gets going they do a far better clearing up after their 50 or so supporters after. Because it is left to the residence of castlefieldd currently.
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Nature will always win out and with all the building on the flood plain the chances of the whole place becoming a swamp is something I look forward too with glee.....karma and all that.

At least the big fence will contain their rubbish if not their light pollution and traffic :(
 
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WoolmanT

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kyoto49 said:
Nature will always win out and with all the building on the flood plain the chances of the whole place becoming a swamp is something I look forward too with glee.....karma and all that.

At least the big fence will contain their rubbish if not their light pollution and traffic :(
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Glee, karma Kyoto49? You are coming across as such a nice person. Key board warrior, flat track bully springs to mind....
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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If the area in question ever flooded over, the town centre would also be under water, it's the same HASL

It doesn't flood. It's a raised peninsula

I should know , I've looked over it for nearly 8 years now.

In between secondments for Her Maj that is
 
gilbert grape

gilbert grape

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So, to anybody who is an adamant supporter of the scheme -
Water table - you think this won't affect drainage and the risk of floods will be wiped out by "raising the land"?
Traffic - you will promote the club as a community facility as well as a commercial income, hiring the social facilities, as well as the pitches out 7 days a week, meaning not only a Saturday afternoon and Sunday morning, but all week round. This won't cause anything but positive vibes? Especially as the weekend parking will replace the b*****d commuters who "dump and go" all week?
All of the ingress and egress will come to and from a brand new road junction that will be used by residents in the area. Do you think this will be safe?

There's a lot of "I'm so happy it's passed" without any real thought on how it will all work. If it's such a grand plan, speak out and tell us it's all safe and, quite importantly, it will ensure a safe future for the club as well as the community - after all, that is what this is all for - right??
 
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alphagamma

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It wouldn't be so bad if the move wasn't being funded by the taxpayer, for one of the only sports that already has adequate facilities in Stafford.
 
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