Shire Hall Gallery could be closed

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Yes on Radio Stafford. She was also on Stafford FM twice last week. She said that Stafford Shire Hall will be sold; the library will be moved to Staffordshire Place 1 and the Cabinet decision will be in May. There's a discussion on facebook under Save Shire Hall Gallery. I can't believe that the County Council will be selling the Shire Hall and the William Salt library. They have about four or five other buildings which they want to sell but I can't see anyone being interested. Maybe someone working in the County Council might know more?!
 
John Marwood

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The other office based jobs in the town centre are also likely to move to that field north of the Audi garage so there will be many other empty buildings in Stafford fairly soon

Organisations have capital expenditure budgets to use up ........
 
1JKz

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proactive said:
Hell will freeze over before any of that self-serving bunch on the CC or their greedy, supercilious, apparatchiks appear on here to defend their grubby little plan.
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I have to say, i agree with proactive

The lousy swines and the powers that be, could well see the town turn into a crumbling mass of mess, if they aren't careful. Then leave behind a town full of disgruntled townsfolk, who can't question (the long gone) idiots who were determined to sell-up f*ck-up, then ship out.

Shire Hall to close?
...are 'they' out of their silly titchy minds?!!?!
 
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The group on the council in charge just want to sell everything! Well, it's a policy I suppose. Not one I agree with.
 
Withnail

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The thing that really pisses me off about this whole clusterf*ck of ineptitude - assuming that it isn't merely smoke 'n' mirrors, which i'm not - is how badly it reflects on the administration of the Scaffoldshire Place project.

£42m of our monies spent on a building project that was to save us more of those monies? How, exactly?

1) All services brought together into one place - an energy efficient building that obviates spending on numerous buildings, concomitant 'efficiencies' due to less 'traffic' between dispersed outposts etc, redundancies 'wastage' inherent in a smaller operation, no water in the toilets etc etc

2) Vacated buildings sold to offset some of the costs of the new build

3) Retail space incorporated in the design of the build to generate ongoing revenue for the organisation, also offsetting cost

Now correct me if i have missed something here, but the build appears to have delivered, and that arguably, on one of these promises ie the 1st.

2 i) How many already-vacated buildings have the CC sold to date?

3 i) How many retail outlets so designed in the build have thus far been let?

And more importantly, why should we suffer because they have failed to live up to the promises that they made?
 
Withnail

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See, now, there are spin-offs from the ^above reasoning, vis. -

2 ii) if the CC have proved themselves incapable of managing the sale of properties already in their 'portfolio', why should we expect them to be any more successful in their management of the sale of any additional properties?

3 ii) if they can't see that the proposed building of mega-retail-space at the former Riverside site wouldn't make the retail space they have, literally, at their feet more 'des' as a 'res', then QF why the blazes are we paying the people who really should be able to see that any monies at all?

Furthermore to 3 ii) -

3 iii) let's imagine the retail space that is now, supposedly, occupied by the Library becomes a more 'hot' property on the back of the Riverside development. What are you to do if 'Bookstones' or 'All Bar Ten' make you an offer you feel unable to refuse? Where are you now to re-house the Library if you have sold its principle residence?

Have you anybody thinking about these things?
 
Gramaisc

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Withnail said:
See, now, there are spin-offs from the ^above reasoning, vis. -

2 ii) if the CC have proved themselves incapable of managing the sale of properties already in their 'portfolio', why should we expect them to be any more successful in their management of the sale of any additional properties?

3 ii) if they can't see that the proposed building of mega-retail-space at the former Riverside site wouldn't make the retail space they have, literally, at their feet more 'des' as a 'res', then QF why the blazes are we paying the people who really should be able to see that any monies at all?

Furthermore to 3 ii) -

3 iii) let's imagine the retail space that is now, supposedly, occupied by the Library becomes a more 'hot' property on the back of the Riverside development. What are you to do if 'Bookstones' or 'All Bar Ten' make you an offer you feel unable to refuse? Where are you now to re-house the Library if you have sold its principle residence?

Have you anybody thinking about these things?
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Do you think they care? We'll pay them anyway.
 
Withnail

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Well that's the inescapable conclusion.

We do, however, have the opportunity, albeit somewhat fleeting, to dispose of their 'services' from time to time.

And they know it.
 
Gramaisc

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Withnail said:
Well that's the inescapable conclusion.

We do, however, have the opportunity, albeit somewhat fleeting, to dispose of their 'services' from time to time.

And they know it.
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One or two of the elected apparatchiks may have a slight vulnerability, on occasion - that's about it.
 
Ecker

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1JKz

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Withnail, So well and truly summed up, very well put!!

I agree with everything Withnail says here.
 
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