The Homeless man outside iceland

[ConcernedCitizen]

There is a homeless man outside of Iceland. This homeless individual often appears to be drunk or on Drugs. This individual often smells and harms businesses financially by putting off customers from passing through the area and visiting struggling small businesses in dire need of consumer capital.

The last thing Stafford Town needs is more empty shops, lost jobs and looking like a ghost town. Stafford Town is in a fragile recovery and this homeless begging only contributes to an idea that this area is worth avoiding and giving off an impression that Stafford is going 'down hill' as many other small but growing towns have suffered.

I am not sure what legal bases there is to remove him but it is always a concerning site to see. I now hear locals and the youth call the small walkway where the homeless begging normally takes place is being nicknamed 'Homeless Alley'. This is a concerning trend and one which should be taken note of.

I want to see Stafford Town look like a place 'Open For Business' not 'Beware of Homeless Alley'.

I would like to know your opinion on whether this man should be moved on due to him putting off customers from struggling businesses or should he remain where he is?


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[marky]

he is there often, just hope he isn't claiming ESA, if I find he is, his money should be stopped unless he undertakes full time activity

 

[John Marwood]

There is a homeless man outside of Iceland. This homeless individual often appears to be drunk or on Drugs. This individual often smells and harms businesses financially by putting off customers from passing through the area and visiting struggling small businesses in dire need of consumer capital.

The last thing Stafford Town needs is more empty shops, lost jobs and looking like a ghost town. Stafford Town is in a fragile recovery and this homeless begging only contributes to an idea that this area is worth avoiding and giving off an impression that Stafford is going 'down hill' as many other small but growing towns have suffered.

I am not sure what legal bases there is to remove him but it is always a concerning site to see. I now hear locals and the youth call the small walkway where the homeless begging normally takes place is being nicknamed 'Homeless Alley'. This is a concerning trend and one which should be taken note of.

I want to see Stafford Town look like a place 'Open For Business' not 'Beware of Homeless Alley'.

I would like to know your opinion on whether this man should be moved on due to him putting off customers from struggling businesses or should he remain where he is?


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Take him home

Give him a bath

Tell him he is loved

Feed him

And maybe you won't just see a nuisance but a human being with a beating heart

 

[John Marwood]

he is there often, just hope he isn't claiming ESA, if I find he is, his money should be stopped unless he undertakes full time activity

Thank you Iain Duncan Smith

That was a message on behalf of the Conservative Party

 

[db]

Take him home

Give him a bath

Tell him he is loved

Feed him

And maybe you won't just see a nuisance but a human being with a beating heart

riiight, cos that's exactly what you'd do

 

[proactive]

Take him home

Give him a bath

Tell him he is loved

Feed him

And maybe you won't just see a nuisance but a human being with a beating heart

What a shame there isn't an option to like a post more than once.

 

[proactive]

There is a homeless man outside of Iceland. This homeless individual often appears to be drunk or on Drugs. This individual often smells and harms businesses financially by putting off customers from passing through the area and visiting struggling small businesses in dire need of consumer capital.

The last thing Stafford Town needs is more empty shops, lost jobs and looking like a ghost town. Stafford Town is in a fragile recovery and this homeless begging only contributes to an idea that this area is worth avoiding and giving off an impression that Stafford is going 'down hill' as many other small but growing towns have suffered.

I am not sure what legal bases there is to remove him but it is always a concerning site to see. I now hear locals and the youth call the small walkway where the homeless begging normally takes place is being nicknamed 'Homeless Alley'. This is a concerning trend and one which should be taken note of.

I want to see Stafford Town look like a place 'Open For Business' not 'Beware of Homeless Alley'.

I would like to know your opinion on whether this man should be moved on due to him putting off customers from struggling businesses or should he remain where he is?


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Rather than being totally heartless and capitalistic about this, why don't you contact social services or the place by the Suzuki garage (used to be Bethany, no idea what it is now) and see if there is some way in which this chap can be helped?

Whatever your opinion of the 'damage; he is doing to local business, living rough can't be much fun at all and he might be crying out for a helping hand.

 

[db]

Rather than being totally heartless and capitalistic about this, why don't you contact social services or the place by the Suzuki garage (used to be Bethany, no idea what it is now) and see if there is some way in which this chap can be helped?

Whatever your opinion of the 'damage; he is doing to local business, living rough can't be much fun at all and he might be crying out for a helping hand.

a much more sensible suggestion than marwood's DIY "solution"..

 

[wmrcomputers]

It's a tough subject, to which I can see both sides. If I owned a nearby shop paying high rents etc. would I be impressed? Hell no!! On the other hand I've spent a few weeks homeless before. However it didn't mean I was drunk or drugged up - just unlucky at the time (which was thankfully only for a few weeks). I also didn't feel a need to reside in a busy town centre or become a nuisance in any way.

I agree that the homeless need help, however it can't be forced onto them by one of us ringing the social services or the Bethany project. They need to ask for that help themselves ideally. Some, as unfortunate as it is, choose that way of life and are happy to beg and drink life away.

A little true story of mine...
When I lived in Blackpool there were several homeless people I'd see regularly. There was only one that never asked for anything, never wore a homeless sign and never held a cup out for change. After a week or so it dawned on me that he was a desperate as those actually begging so I gave him a hot drink, a burger and a cigarette. He never ever asked, and I chose to give to him on some (but not all) occassions. A few weeks later he spotted me and ran up to me with a huge smile showing me the soaking wet £20 note he had found on the seafront the previous evening, and insisted to buy me 10 cigarettes to replace what I had given to him.
4 months later, I saw him clean shaven and litter picking. He'd got a paid job, a bedsit flat and turned things around. I asked how he managed to go from one extreme to another when the other same homeless faces never changed and he told me "they're all happy to beg and booze and I wasn't. I might have been homeless but I was never a begger and never will be".
Possibly one of the most genuine people I will ever have met.

 

[Glam]

There is a homeless man outside of Iceland. This homeless individual often appears to be drunk or on Drugs. This individual often smells and harms businesses financially by putting off customers from passing through the area and visiting struggling small businesses in dire need of consumer capital.


I would like to know your opinion on whether this man should be moved on due to him putting off customers from struggling businesses or should he remain where he is?


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What would you do with him then?

 

[kyoto49]

There is a homeless man outside of Iceland. This homeless individual often appears to be drunk or on Drugs. This individual often smells and harms businesses financially by putting off customers from passing through the area and visiting struggling small businesses in dire need of consumer capital.

The last thing Stafford Town needs is more empty shops, lost jobs and looking like a ghost town. Stafford Town is in a fragile recovery and this homeless begging only contributes to an idea that this area is worth avoiding and giving off an impression that Stafford is going 'down hill' as many other small but growing towns have suffered.

I am not sure what legal bases there is to remove him but it is always a concerning site to see. I now hear locals and the youth call the small walkway where the homeless begging normally takes place is being nicknamed 'Homeless Alley'. This is a concerning trend and one which should be taken note of.

I want to see Stafford Town look like a place 'Open For Business' not 'Beware of Homeless Alley'.

I would like to know your opinion on whether this man should be moved on due to him putting off customers from struggling businesses or should he remain where he is?


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You need to watch this, all of it, and have a long hard look at yourself. I'm ashamed there are people like you on this forum.

 

[Andreas Rex]

Take him home

Give him a bath

Tell him he is loved

Feed him

And maybe you won't just see a nuisance but a human being with a beating heart

riiight, cos that's exactly what you'd do

I've done almost exactly that on several occasions! Pretty sure I posted on here about the fella outside Trinity Church a couple of years ago. If I didn't post it on here the you'd definitely have seen it on my FB page, @db. He was drunk and aggressive...but I still ended up taking him some sarnies and having a chat.

When I lived in St Albans, one of the most affluent cities in Britain, I worked with the homeless folk. It was one of the most enjoyable things I've ever done. There's nothing which can exclude you from being the next person on the street.

 

[Glam]

There's actually 2 homeless men along the Iceland bit. The 1 that sits directly outside the shop, and another a bit further down, towards Wilkos.
When I was in Blackpool at the end of June, there were people begging every few yards. 1 bloke even tried snatch my phone out of my hand while I was talking to my sister, cos I wouldn't stop what I was doing and give him some money.

 

[flossietoo]

When I saw the thread title, I honestly thought it was from someone wanting to know how to help.

It sounds trite but homeless people weren't born different. They are us, with a little less luck. We could be them, with a little more time.

Try talking to him, you might be surprised. I was fortunate enough to make a very lovely friend who lived on the streets in Manchester when I used to go there often. I probably wouldn't have spoken to him, not because he was homeless but because I'm not very good with strangers. But he had a dog. I began carrying biscuits for the dog. Eventually the dog introduced his owner.

 

[John Marwood]

Spotted these types on the street earlier, ruining local businesses...

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

There has been quite a lot of interest in this post and some seem to have misinterpreted to the point I was trying to make about his presence effecting struggling businesses, people livelihoods and the future of the Town in general.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

I will take the courtesy of answering every single comment so I am able to get across a very reasonable and moderate view.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

Take him home

Give him a bath

Tell him he is loved

Feed him

And maybe you won't just see a nuisance but a human being with a beating heart

I Very odd Link you displayed. I think you will find that the world is not black and white. There are people out there who are homeless for some unforgivable reasons so let's not just to conclusions.

The point that was made was when about 20-30 Jobs in that end of Town are at stake, over one individual who has decided to lay around on the street corner putting there Jobs at stake. If you could keep to the discussion in display over what can be done to possibly save those Jobs and future profitability of local businesses that would be very much appreciated. Kind Regards.

 

[ConcernedCitizen]

Thank you Iain Duncan Smith

That was a message on behalf of the Conservative Party

I am actually liberal/libertarian. I think the comment you left was most unfair and highly unconstructive to the overall discussion and debate on this thread.

 

[Glam]

I Very odd Link you displayed. I think you will find that the world is not black and white. There are people out there who are homeless for some unforgivable reasons so let's not just to conclusions.

The point that was made was when about 20-30 Jobs in that end of Town are at stake, over one individual who has decided to lay around on the street corner putting there Jobs at stake. If you could keep to the discussion in display over what can be done to possibly save those Jobs and future profitability of local businesses that would be very much appreciated. Kind Regards.

Who's 20-30 jobs are at stake then?
1 person does not an area drag down. That part of town is an eyesore, it needs bulldozing.