Would you vote for a party who say they will raise income tax to fund NHS?

Would you vote for a party who say they will raise income tax to fund NHS?

  • No

    Votes: 7 33.3%

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • Yes unless it is UKIP

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • Total voters
    21
  • Poll closed .
John Marwood

John Marwood

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Of course, the most logical thing to do would be to add a high tax upon alcohol, sugar and corn oil, or the products that contain it, preferably both

Which in turn helps fund the NHS and reduces the need for its being

So why doesn't this happen?

Quite simply there are too many 'interests' within the MP's and their associates

The food and drinks lobby is a business all its own spending hundreds of millions to keep us ignorant and therefore addicted to fat, sugar and drink

Trebles All Round with extra fries!!
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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Thank you to all who voted - only a tiny survey but interesting all the same, and thank you for all comments - very useful
 
tek-monkey

tek-monkey

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I should add a lot would depend on their other policies, if they say they would help the NHS but still vote for the TTIP then its a no as I'd have no faith that they'd really want to help it. It would have to be part of a wider package ensuring private firms stayed away from public resources permanently, which few are willing to do.
 
Jonah

Jonah

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Hetairoi

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So there are seven people (at the moment) that would rather see the NHS fail than vote for UKIP!

I hope you never need a hip replacement!
 
John Marwood

John Marwood

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Gramaisc said:
I believe that, even if we had gone for the Alternative Vote system, you were unlikely to be offered that option.
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Tonight Matthew I am going to be...

An Elvis impersonator who licks baboons balls and needs a hip replacement

Rocking with Riata - who is covered in Indian yogurt - head to toe
 
henryscat

henryscat

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John Marwood said:
Of course, the most logical thing to do would be to add a high tax upon alcohol, sugar and corn oil, or the products that contain it, preferably both

Which in turn helps fund the NHS and reduces the need for its being

So why doesn't this happen?

Quite simply there are too many 'interests' within the MP's and their associates

The food and drinks lobby is a business all its own spending hundreds of millions to keep us ignorant and therefore addicted to fat, sugar and drink

Trebles All Round with extra fries!!
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Indeed.

Whilst I don't object to the principle of slightly more tax to fund better public services, I do think that as things stand shovelling more money to the NHS to treat people is solving the wrong problem. There needs to be a massive shift in emphasis to prevention, which means more than considering pricing measures on alcohol, sugar, corn oil etc. It starts with the education system and making sure that kids understand about healthy eating and how to cook properly. Other things include transport and planning policy to reduce car dependence, to get people walking and reduce air pollution; considering limits on fast food outlets and their advertising; regulation on sugar/salt content of food; getting rid of ingredients like sweetners that are hazardous to health; reducing the chemicals in our households (like fire retardants in furniture); regulating/reducing pesticides used in farming. Far more emphasis also needs to be placed on looking after people's well being and mental health - workplace culture and long hours are destroying lives and people's mental health; reducing isolation of people who are stuck alone in their own homes.

I don't believe that the way the country is going, the NHS will ever keep up with treating increasing ill health. It seems pointless, for example, pouring more and more money into cancer treatment whilst ignoring the fact that most cancers are lifestyle related and thus could be prevented.
 
Laurie61

Laurie61

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One thing that seems not to be mentioned with this, and the retirement problem, is the baby boomer's effect. We were told for years that as this generation reached retirement age it would put strain on the health/pensions systems which it now has. The baby boomer's are not though immortal, they will progress as we all do and eventually die, this will rebalance the age demographic and mean less elderly being supported by proportionately more people of working age. So it may be that we only need to accommodate a temporary situation rather than think this is a permanent problem which seems to be the thinking of government.
 
1JKz

1JKz

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More money doesn't necessarily mean better quality!

I believe waste plays a big part of money-down-the-drain syndrome, small example (and it is a small example) but relevant, I feel;
I pay my prescription £8.10 I think it was, but I only use half of the drugs prescribed (it's wasn't a course i had to complete, therefore not having to take all of the pills).
I take 50% (in affect £4.05) of the drugs back to the pharmacy, in their packaging, unopened, very nearly untouched!
They refuse to take them back.
I pay £8.10 but god knows what our NHS paid the drug company for them, so why can't some other person (that needs them) take the unused drugs, get them back in the system?*

Would I like to pay another 2% for a "better" NHS?
Heeeeell NO.

We wouldn't have a choice if paying or not paying, the extra 2%, anyhow.

*unless i'm missing another avenue, can't sell them on ebay etc...
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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1JKz said:
why can't some other person (that needs them) take the unused drugs, get them back in the system?
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I suppose, in this day and age, they might be worried about somebody emptying antibiotic capsules, for example, and refilling them with ricin, or something else...

..etc..

The amount of packaging on health products often seems a bit over-the-top.
 
citricsquid

citricsquid

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1JKz said:
I pay my prescription £8.10 I think it was, but I only use half of the drugs prescribed (it's wasn't a course i had to complete, therefore not having to take all of the pills).
I take 50% (in affect £4.05) of the drugs back to the pharmacy, in their packaging, unopened, very nearly untouched!
They refuse to take them back.
I pay £8.10 but god knows what our NHS paid the drug company for them, so why can't some other person (that needs them) take the unused drugs, get them back in the system?*
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The cost of "taking back" the unused drugs would far exceed the cost of the drugs in the first place. False economy.
 
Gramaisc

Gramaisc

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citricsquid said:
The cost of "taking back" the unused drugs would far exceed the cost of the drugs in the first place. False economy.
1JKz said:
I beg to differ!
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There will be a transition point - obviously, taking back one tablet will be uneconomic, but taking back a thousand is unlikely to be - however 'security' will always be an issue, and it's probably felt that it's safer to just burn them and buy some more new ones...

I deal with a lot of elderly people that I like to call drug-users, and they're not always the world's most organised people - the risk of even an innocent mix-up is fairly large...
 
1JKz

1JKz

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I'd like to get the NHS/government to trial it, rather take unused drugs back and put them back into the system, than get making new ones, I bet some folk have vast amount of drugs, unused in cupboards with best before dates 2016, on them!

I just thought it was a huge waste, and I can't do anything about it.

On my tod, I could have saved the NHS £4.05, or made them £4.05, depends how you look at it.

I'm saying transport them locally, we're all suffering from the same sort of things and take almost the same sort of drugs*, heck the fella next door could have been going the local pharmacy for the exact same drugs, I could have had put back on the shelf, 5 mins previous to his visit!

*statistics are from my head, please don't ask for actually numbers, facts and figures.
 
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