Atheism

Trapnest

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I believe God exists. Not like that though. You know how a deceased person "lives on" in your heart and whatever? You've built up this personal profile, how you know them is different to how someone else did, personal experiences and such. Physical entity or not, God exists for all those who believe in Him (or Her! ...or Them!) because they've built up the persona and had their own experiences with them. I hope that makes sense.

As for if I believe in a God. No, not really. Or else he's a bastard. I prefer my invisible friend, Gerald. He's ever so nice, always tries to show me up in public though.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
The problem is once you accept the existence of a supreme being you have a LOT of work to do. You need to weigh up every religion, against how you perceive life and of course against other religions too. I imagine a rather large scoring chart being needed, but scoring will be difficult as every religion has its own rule book.

Believing in god solves many of lifes questions, but knowing you believe in the right god must be impossible. Im pretty sure most gods dont like you hanging about with other gods either, so in a way not believing is the safest option.
 

Gramaisc

Forum O. G.
I wonder if there are many genuine believers in the old Graeco-Roman pantheism gods?

What happens to gods if people stop believing in them? Is there a redundancy scheme?
 

henryscat

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Bideford Town Council to appeal ruling about prayers not being allowed at council meetings:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-17060065
 

Kickstart

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Withnail said:
Mr. Hockney is entirely welcome to his 'belief' that smoking is not harmful; after all, his own experience tells him that this is so.

He is, however, quite wrong. Outside of his own experience, the harm that smoking causes exists, whether he 'believes' it, or indeed experiences it, himself or not.
Can't really see anything in the quote from Hockney that suggests he doesn't believe it is harmful. Just that there are many other things that are harmful to a greater or lessor extent that people chose to do. Smoking is just one thing he chooses to do while not caring too much about it harming him in the long term.

All the best

Keith
 

Nicedave

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Gramaisc said:
I wonder if there are many genuine believers in the old Graeco-Roman pantheism gods?

What happens to gods if people stop believing in them? Is there a redundancy scheme?
It would be a god eat god world
 

Withnail

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Kickstart said:
Can't really see anything in the quote from Hockney that suggests he doesn't believe it is harmful....
Hockney said:
(as) a good and satisfied customer of the tobacco companies...

Someone who has almost outlived a fanatical anti-smoking father...
Someone who is fed up to the teeth with people who think they really know what health is...
Someone who knows how easy it is to lie with statistics...
Someone who knows that smokers can live perfectly average-length lives*...
Nothing in isolation maybe, but there is a cumulative effect of the statements he makes that serves to undermine its harmfulness.

...just that there are many other things that are harmful to a greater or lesser extent that people chose to do.
Hockney said:
*...but heavy drinkers rarely.
So something that is very bad for you isn't really bad because some things are worse?

That is illogical, Captain.
 

Withnail

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