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If that's their idea of public service then all I can say is 'God help us'...henryscat said:Bideford Town Council to appeal ruling about prayers not being allowed at council meetings:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-17060065
Can't really see anything in the quote from Hockney that suggests he doesn't believe it is harmful. Just that there are many other things that are harmful to a greater or lessor extent that people chose to do. Smoking is just one thing he chooses to do while not caring too much about it harming him in the long term.Withnail said:Mr. Hockney is entirely welcome to his 'belief' that smoking is not harmful; after all, his own experience tells him that this is so.
He is, however, quite wrong. Outside of his own experience, the harm that smoking causes exists, whether he 'believes' it, or indeed experiences it, himself or not.
It would be a god eat god worldGramaisc said:I wonder if there are many genuine believers in the old Graeco-Roman pantheism gods?
What happens to gods if people stop believing in them? Is there a redundancy scheme?
Or sky pixie made everything and stop asking questions.Biggus Dickus said:In the Beginning there was nothing, which exploded
Kickstart said:Can't really see anything in the quote from Hockney that suggests he doesn't believe it is harmful....
Nothing in isolation maybe, but there is a cumulative effect of the statements he makes that serves to undermine its harmfulness.Hockney said:(as) a good and satisfied customer of the tobacco companies...
Someone who has almost outlived a fanatical anti-smoking father...
Someone who is fed up to the teeth with people who think they really know what health is...
Someone who knows how easy it is to lie with statistics...
Someone who knows that smokers can live perfectly average-length lives*...
...just that there are many other things that are harmful to a greater or lesser extent that people chose to do.
So something that is very bad for you isn't really bad because some things are worse?Hockney said:*...but heavy drinkers rarely.
Gravity is hard habit to shake offhenryscat said:No, gravity could be an illusion...Gramaisc said:But, if he came out on the other side of the world, that would be proof?.Withnail said:When in a hole it is best to stop digging.