Coronavirus.

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Partygate
Care homes
Hiding vax data
Disappearing medical advisors?
Increasing damage data
Actual jab efficacy - massively reduced

All exist and change by the day but you still respond to me and others like there's only one story!
I've got shortcomings? Bloody hell!
There's now even a society that's been set up nationally and registered practitioners are signing up to help people with advice on how to treat vaccine damage because it's growing so much. I guess this is all lies and incorrect info, too?
Links?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Standard conspiracy post I'm afraid.

Start with a thing people are already angry about
Throw in another thats mostly similar
Start throwing in the bits you want people to believe but can't prove
Finish on something that you know is easily proven as people always go through the whole list before thinking about things properly and the last lingers in the mind

Obviously GG didn't get the memo on the last point, but he's learning. The problem is he seems to get fed stuff likely in a state where he doesn't question, he then posts those here without fully comprehending and we question them. He then has to go off on a tangent as the person that told him it was true isn't there to defend the point and he can't.

At least I assume thats why he refuses to debate the things he himself posts.
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
It's my partygate and I'll obfuscate if I want to!
Collectively, most of it is already out in the ether but people ignore it. The nation (or most of it) has become conveniently conditioned. I see fear on peoples' faces rather than hope - so wrong! I see people divided due to not sticking some cloth over their face when they don't need to have it- \in the open air, distanced and safe but still believing worst case scenarios! Just shocking! That isn't science, it's fear!
With movements like the Peoples Health Alliance, even more would be zombie-ing headlong off the precipice rather than thinking for themselves.
The fact every single link i post is dismissed rather than even "I'll give you that" means you don't apply science, but just your own rigid opinions. I see no change in opinions on here, admittedly from a small number, but out there in the real world things are moving on.
The government figures show you all is not what we have been fed.
The knock on effect of Covid restrictions are rowing, with other viruses becoming more prevalent now people are interacting, while the waiting lists will carry their own casualties that could have been avoided. Half of my appointments are still online while face to face would bring further benefits.

I still have to ask the question, for the millions upon millions invested in telling us all to get jabbed, wear unhealthy masks and restrict our freedom, why has there never been a publicity campaign on how we could all boost our immunity, help ourselves with recovery from any illnesses and take pressure of the NHS?

Worth exploring https://the-pha.org/
 

SketchyMagpie

Well-Known Forumite

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
The fact every single link i post is dismissed rather than even "I'll give you that" means you don't apply science, but just your own rigid opinions. I see no change in opinions on here, admittedly from a small number, but out there in the real world things are moving on.
I didn't dismiss, I asked direct questions which you promptly ignored! Try actually debating, otherwise there is not much point in posting.

Lets go back to your last link, I sat and read it (something you happily admit you haven't bothered to do with ours). I immediately picked up some discrepancies, I asked you about them, you ignored my questions completely and came back with something the article didn't even say because you interpreted it that way. Why won't you debate the things you post?
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
The knock on effect of Covid restrictions are rowing, with other viruses becoming more prevalent now people are interacting, while the waiting lists will carry their own casualties that could have been avoided. Half of my appointments are still online while face to face would bring further benefits.
I also find it strange that you equate waiting time increases with covid restrictions, not infections. If they weren't ill they wouldn't need treatment, so wouldn't be bed blocking. The average hospital stay for a covid infection is three times the national average stay for non covid issues, each sick person effectively blocks three other treatments.

How are covid restrictions affecting this, that is worse than covid infections?
 

gilbert grape

Well-Known Forumite
I also find it strange that you equate waiting time increases with covid restrictions, not infections. If they weren't ill they wouldn't need treatment, so wouldn't be bed blocking. The average hospital stay for a covid infection is three times the national average stay for non covid issues, each sick person effectively blocks three other treatments.

How are covid restrictions affecting this, that is worse than covid infections?
Restrictions don’t effect waiting? Are you serious? Have you had over 40 years of hospital care so you can compare how busy clinics are? You have no idea!!
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Restrictions don’t effect waiting? Are you serious? Have you had over 40 years of hospital care so you can compare how busy clinics are? You have no idea!!
I've seen a steady decline in availability for at least the last decade, haven't you?

Any reason you won't comment on the points I've made other than this one?
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
It's my partygate and I'll obfuscate if I want to!
Collectively, most of it is already out in the ether but people ignore it. The nation (or most of it) has become conveniently conditioned. I see fear on peoples' faces rather than hope - so wrong! I see people divided due to not sticking some cloth over their face when they don't need to have it- \in the open air, distanced and safe but still believing worst case scenarios! Just shocking! That isn't science, it's fear!
With movements like the Peoples Health Alliance, even more would be zombie-ing headlong off the precipice rather than thinking for themselves.
The fact every single link i post is dismissed rather than even "I'll give you that" means you don't apply science, but just your own rigid opinions. I see no change in opinions on here, admittedly from a small number, but out there in the real world things are moving on.
The government figures show you all is not what we have been fed.
The knock on effect of Covid restrictions are rowing, with other viruses becoming more prevalent now people are interacting, while the waiting lists will carry their own casualties that could have been avoided. Half of my appointments are still online while face to face would bring further benefits.

I still have to ask the question, for the millions upon millions invested in telling us all to get jabbed, wear unhealthy masks and restrict our freedom, why has there never been a publicity campaign on how we could all boost our immunity, help ourselves with recovery from any illnesses and take pressure of the NHS?

Worth exploring https://the-pha.org/
Utter bollocks. Stop posting your dangerous rubbish. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Don't bother replying as I'm now blocking you.
 

proactive

Enjoying a drop of red.
Standard conspiracy post I'm afraid.

Start with a thing people are already angry about
Throw in another thats mostly similar
Start throwing in the bits you want people to believe but can't prove
Finish on something that you know is easily proven as people always go through the whole list before thinking about things properly and the last lingers in the mind

Obviously GG didn't get the memo on the last point, but he's learning. The problem is he seems to get fed stuff likely in a state where he doesn't question, he then posts those here without fully comprehending and we question them. He then has to go off on a tangent as the person that told him it was true isn't there to defend the point and he can't.

At least I assume thats why he refuses to debate the things he himself posts.
He's a total bullshit merchant.
 

SketchyMagpie

Well-Known Forumite
The fact every single link i post is dismissed rather than even "I'll give you that" means you don't apply science, but just your own rigid opinions

Facts are facts. You post stuff that is demonstrably false. Don't blame us for your shitty sources.

With that, I'm out. Make sure your tin foil hat stays nice and comfy, Gilbert.
 
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tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Restrictions don’t effect waiting? Are you serious? Have you had over 40 years of hospital care so you can compare how busy clinics are? You have no idea!!
Also, minor point, but yet again you read what you wanted into a statement that wasn't made.

I look forward to tonight's installment of the man in the pub said it so it must be true.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
You're obviously not as clever as you think.
Sod it, I've got a few minutes free...

Come on then, enlighten me, back up one of your nonsense posts. Have the balls to actually defend the drivel you post rather than running every time a question is asked.

Why do you believe from the link you posted that the reaction was from the vaccine? How can you infer that when dates arent given for the vaccines? Feel free to quote it.
 
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