Coronavirus.

[proactive]

The pointing and sniggering makes you all look stupid, in a world where most of the links get taken down by media that's owned bY those with vested interests rather than interests of ever changing facts and reality.

We know whee the live daily updates were broadcast from.
We know where Full Fact has a ot of backing from.
We know how many MPs have been paid to stay quiet or don;t need to be, because they have heavily vested interests.
All counts the same with the ongoing release of information, that will be pushed down the newsfeeds as it happens.
The whistle blowers on what has gone on are also conveniently tarred as people with grievances, when they have less to lose and just want truth.

They've maximised the situation in reducing population through care home mis-management etc, breaking the NHS through driving staff away with stupid mandates and breaking services that were already struggling, while also changing public perception.
The government vaccine reporting has changed again so figures will gradually become even more out of line to suit their narrative.

In a piece from 2021 it was said " The pharmaceutical industry has built up a “hidden web of policy influence” over dozens of all-party parliamentary groups (APPGs) at Westminster by making hundreds of “non-transparent” payments to them, as part of the industry’s wider effort to lobby those in power, researchers claim." This has continued with even greater influence, as was shown in Parliament when Bridgen gave his speech and Andrew Mitchell crossed the house to beckon other MPs to leave with him! If everything that he said was untrue, why have most platforms conveniently taken the speech down, while he hasn't been charged? He couldn't be bought.

Now here's a little story
To tell it is a must
About an unsung hero
That moves away your dust
Some people make a fortune
Others earn a mint
My old man don't earn much
In fact he's flippin' skint
Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
He looks a proper narner
In his great big hobnail boots
He's got such a job to pull 'em up
That he calls them daisy roots
Some folk give tips at Christmas
And some of them forget
So when he picks their bins up
He spills some on the steps
Now one old man got nasty
And to the council wrote
Next time my old man went 'round there
He punched him up the throat
Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
I say, I say Les' (yeah?)
I 'er, I found a police dog in my dust bin
(How do you know he's a police dog?)
He had a policeman with him
Though my old man's a dustman
He's got an 'eart of gold
He got married recently
Though he's eighty-six years old
We said "'ere, 'ang on dad
you're getting past your prime"
He said "well when you get to my age"
"It helps to pass the time" (oi!)
My old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
I say, I say, I say (huh?)
My dustbin's full of lillies
(Well, throw them away then!)
I can't, Lilly's wearing them
Now, one day while in a hurry
He missed a lady's bin
He hadn't gone but a few yards
When she chased after him
"What game do you think you're playing"
She cried right from the heart
"You missed me, am I too late?"
"No, jump up on the cart!"
My old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat, I say I say, I say (not you again!)
My dustbin's absolutely full with toadstools
How do you know it's full?
'Cause there's not mushroom inside!
He found a tiger's head one day
Nailed to a piece of wood
The tiger looked quite miserable
But I suppose he should
Just them from out the window
A voice began to wail
He said "oi, where's me tiger's head?"
"Four foot from 'is tail!"
Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wear cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
Next time you see a dustman
Looking all pale and sad
Don't kick him in the dustbin
It might be my ole dad!

 

[tek-monkey]

The pointing and sniggering makes you all look stupid, in a world where most of the links get taken down by media that's owned bY those with vested interests rather than interests of ever changing facts and reality.

We know whee the live daily updates were broadcast from.

Downing street?

We know where Full Fact has a ot of backing from.

You should, it's all listed, which do you have issue with?

Funding - Full Fact

Full Fact is the UK’s independent fact checking organisation

fullfact.org

We know how many MPs have been paid to stay quiet or don;t need to be, because they have heavily vested interests.

Know without evidence? Is it a general 'yeah but everyone knows' sort of thing? Or do you mean actually know, as in knowledge, as in you can prove it's true? If the latter I'd love to see it, if the former then well...

All counts the same with the ongoing release of information, that will be pushed down the newsfeeds as it happens.

Everyone sees a different newsfeed, thats how social media works? Or do you mean actual news sites? Because most people read the news they want to see.

The whistle blowers on what has gone on are also conveniently tarred as people with grievances, when they have less to lose and just want truth.

Any particular whistleblower you have in mind, so we can look at the details? Or is this another really vague 'everyone knows' thing?

They've maximised the situation in reducing population through care home mis-management etc, breaking the NHS through driving staff away with stupid mandates and breaking services that were already struggling, while also changing public perception.
The government vaccine reporting has changed again so figures will gradually become even more out of line to suit their narrative.

Never denied the government are arseholes, unlike many I can at least say I've never voted for them.

In a piece from 2021 it was said " The pharmaceutical industry has built up a “hidden web of policy influence” over dozens of all-party parliamentary groups (APPGs) at Westminster by making hundreds of “non-transparent” payments to them, as part of the industry’s wider effort to lobby those in power, researchers claim." This has continued with even greater influence, as was shown in Parliament when Bridgen gave his speech and Andrew Mitchell crossed the house to beckon other MPs to leave with him! If everything that he said was untrue, why have most platforms conveniently taken the speech down, while he hasn't been charged? He couldn't be bought.

It's well known the tories want to privatise the NHS, it's been well known for years, why would you think the medical companies wouldn't be circling like vultures? I'd be willing to bet certain MPs have already promised American firms specific slices of it but I have no evidence so I'd never say it's known, that would be stupid. It doesn't somehow reverse validate anything said previously though, this was all happening before covid.

It's also well known that the tories are corrupt lying bastards, again I never voted for them, but a lot of people are stupid enough to then wonder why we have MPs acting like tories.

 

[tek-monkey]

Yes please, how many you got?

All of them! Everyone else's magic beans are fake!!! They aren't real, everyone knows, my beans are the real ones, just ask anyone. No not that person, someone else, someone I choose, yeah, see, everyone agrees.

 

[tek-monkey]

Now here's a little story
To tell it is a must
About an unsung hero
That moves away your dust
Some people make a fortune
Others earn a mint
My old man don't earn much
In fact he's flippin' skint
Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
He looks a proper narner
In his great big hobnail boots
He's got such a job to pull 'em up
That he calls them daisy roots
Some folk give tips at Christmas
And some of them forget
So when he picks their bins up
He spills some on the steps
Now one old man got nasty
And to the council wrote
Next time my old man went 'round there
He punched him up the throat
Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
I say, I say Les' (yeah?)
I 'er, I found a police dog in my dust bin
(How do you know he's a police dog?)
He had a policeman with him
Though my old man's a dustman
He's got an 'eart of gold
He got married recently
Though he's eighty-six years old
We said "'ere, 'ang on dad
you're getting past your prime"
He said "well when you get to my age"
"It helps to pass the time" (oi!)
My old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
I say, I say, I say (huh?)
My dustbin's full of lillies
(Well, throw them away then!)
I can't, Lilly's wearing them
Now, one day while in a hurry
He missed a lady's bin
He hadn't gone but a few yards
When she chased after him
"What game do you think you're playing"
She cried right from the heart
"You missed me, am I too late?"
"No, jump up on the cart!"
My old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wears cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat, I say I say, I say (not you again!)
My dustbin's absolutely full with toadstools
How do you know it's full?
'Cause there's not mushroom inside!
He found a tiger's head one day
Nailed to a piece of wood
The tiger looked quite miserable
But I suppose he should
Just them from out the window
A voice began to wail
He said "oi, where's me tiger's head?"
"Four foot from 'is tail!"
Oh, my old man's a dustman
He wears a dustman's hat
He wear cor blimey trousers
And he lives in a council flat
Next time you see a dustman
Looking all pale and sad
Don't kick him in the dustbin
It might be my ole dad!

Thought we were going into fresh prince there for a sec!

 

[proactive]

All of them! Everyone else's magic beans are fake!!! They aren't real, everyone knows, my beans are the real ones, just ask anyone. No not that person, someone else, someone I choose, yeah, see, everyone agrees.

Well you've convinced me, where do I sign?

 

[gilbert grape]

If something is happening right in front of you, for all that want to see and hear, so is obvious - why do you need a raft of evidence?
Surely you're heading towards Boris territory and you'll just look at one line of proof and forever stick to it?

The media, drug companies and the government are currently "Boris" who you all seem to be believing on these matters.
Do you still not find it odd how most of us can be on any other thread on this forum and agree on most matters, but on this one I express a different opinion and get called all sorts?
Again, I reiterate - I appeared on this thread and purely expressed a different opinion to those following a standard narrative. Being called all sorts is the only time I've responded in kind.

As the great Jo Cox said - “we have more in common than what divides us”.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

Here is poor old Gilbert innocently walking into this thread on page 298 just to express his opinion (about us) before *we* attacked *him*.....

As well as loads of sources of masks not being effective there's now 9-10 pages of documentation from Pfizer on the side effects.
The government are now ready to pay over 1,000 people £120k each due to vaccine damage and it's on the government website.
Not conspiracy, not scaremongering, just a small percentage of people who suffered and spoke out. It's time to stop looking down on people who don't follow your narrative and trying to kick people you accuse of doing bad research. It's there, it's real and going by a number of people I know who have suffered, I'm also sorry I've had the first 3 jabs as i think time will uncover more issues!
I'm glad my blinkers are off and I'm glad I can accept others views. For the record, I don't get info from Jonny on Facebook.

https://www.staffordforum.com/xf/index.php?threads/coronavirus.20169/post-451679

 

[gilbert grape]

Here is poor old Gilbert innocently walking into this thread on page 298 just to express his opinion before *we* attacked *him*.....



https://www.staffordforum.com/xf/index.php?threads/coronavirus.20169/post-451679

You count that as abusive or name calling? You poor little sausage!
Still, it's nice of you to pull up the statement that has become truer by the day while you all keep denying it.

They are having to look deeper into the vaccine damage claims Told you so!
No US states have mask mandates

 

[SketchyMagpie]

The people who did the study reported in that second link have said that it does not say what that article claims. This is from their website:

Many commentators have claimed that a recently-updated Cochrane Review shows that 'masks don't work', which is an inaccurate and misleading interpretation.

It would be accurate to say that the review examined whether interventions to promote mask wearing help to slow the spread of respiratory viruses, and that the results were inconclusive. Given the limitations in the primary evidence, the review is not able to address the question of whether mask-wearing itself reduces people's risk of contracting or spreading respiratory viruses.

Statement on 'Physical interventions to interrupt or reduce the spread of respiratory viruses' review

www.cochrane.org

I wasn't even trying to debunk that, it was just the first thing I saw when I googled the study's publisher to find out who they were since the article was vague.

 

[tek-monkey]

If something is happening right in front of you, for all that want to see and hear, so is obvious - why do you need a raft of evidence?
Surely you're heading towards Boris territory and you'll just look at one line of proof and forever stick to it?

Like those idiots that believed brexit? Amazing how gullible some people are isn't it, 350m for the NHS!

The media, drug companies and the government are currently "Boris" who you all seem to be believing on these matters.

It's pretty obvious that if there's one thing this forum agrees on it's that Boris is a liar. I don't see anyone agreeing with him, I know that goes against your narrative so you'll ignore it but I'd love you to tell us who believes him!

Do you still not find it odd how most of us can be on any other thread on this forum and agree on most matters, but on this one I express a different opinion and get called all sorts?

As usual you seem really unable to grasp the difference between people calling you stupid, and people calling your beliefs stupid.

Again, I reiterate - I appeared on this thread and purely expressed a different opinion to those following a standard narrative. Being called all sorts is the only time I've responded in kind.

But when other raise an opinion they discuss it, you run away and refuse to. You post something, someone takes the time to read/watch and then ask questions, and you refuse to engage just post more nonsense. It's like you're just an auto forwarder for a Russian bot, I'm not even certain you've read a lot of what you post and you certainly can't defend it against even basic scrutiny.

 

[Lucy]

My Dad's finally got it. He feels okay so far, but at 84 it's obviously a worry.

 

[SketchyMagpie]

Ach, best wishes to him. It is a worry when it happens. On the plus side, it's much better to have caught it now than two years or three years ago so hopefully he'll be fine.

 

[DoggedWalker]

You count that as abusive or name calling? You poor little sausage!
Still, it's nice of you to pull up the statement that has become truer by the day while you all keep denying it.

They are having to look deeper into the vaccine damage claims Told you so!
No US states have mask mandates

Flat-earther

 

[tek-monkey]

My Dad's finally got it. He feels okay so far, but at 84 it's obviously a worry.

Sorry to hear that. If it's any help my nan is 102 and shrugged it off like a cold, despite those around her being quite ill.

 

[gilbert grape]

Flat-earther

You are ridiculous!

 

[proactive]

My Dad's finally got it. He feels okay so far, but at 84 it's obviously a worry.

Both mum and dad had it in January. (dad same age as yours, mum in her 90s). Mum had no symptoms, dad said it felt like flu with someone hitting his head with a sledge hammer for three days. Both now fine and causing the usual mayhem...

Easier said than done but try not to worry.

 

[Lucy]

I've spoken to him and he said he feels okay, although he did have a bad reaction to his pneumonia jab on Friday so maybe he had it then...

 

[SketchyMagpie]

Gilbert, what's stopping you from doing a quick check to see if the information you're posting is legit? Just take 30 seconds and you'd have seen that article about that study that you posted was wrong.

 

[tek-monkey]

Gilbert, what's stopping you from doing a quick check to see if the information you're posting is legit? Just take 30 seconds and you'd have seen that article about that study that you posted was wrong.

I asked this question of another Gilbert I know once, his answer was that it didn't matter if what he posted was technically true or not as it was the sentiment that was important. Literally didn't care if he was spreading lies as long as they aligned with his views.

 

[gilbert grape]

Gilbert, what's stopping you from doing a quick check to see if the information you're posting is legit? Just take 30 seconds and you'd have seen that article about that study that you posted was wrong.

On masks? There are loads of reports on them not being effective. Virtually all the masks that have been worn during this farce have been little more than splash guards. You just repeatedly find something that opposes what I say and pass it off as gospel becomes it come via your keyboard!
Speak to me about N95s and I'll listen. Keep telling me face coverings and jabs fix everything and you sound insane. Treating everybody with the same supposed vaccine solution when we all have different immunity, and even health conditions. is also wrong. And if i'm wrong on that, why are there people who have never been jabbed and never had covid? Why are there people who have had all the jabs, had bad reactions and still had covid numerous times?