Coronavirus.

Thehooperman

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So United introducing COVID checks before yesterday's game, as widely reported in the news, comprised of a few people randomly trying to stop people to ask if they'd been jabbed and ticking the responses on a sheet of paper!! What a total waste of time.

I had arrived early to avoid the crush to protect my shoulder and also because I anticipated delays whilst everyone showed their COVID information as per the checks before the Fulham game in May.

As I had a coffee, I stood next to one of the "surveyors" as he went about his business and many fans just walked past him because he appeared to be trying to sell them something rather than doing a COVID check.

I asked to see his tick sheet and of those who did stop about 55% were either double jabbed or had tested negative. Of the remainder they said they either weren't jabbed or hadn't even bothered to check.

The numbers were quite shocking especially if you assume that some of the 55% would be lying in case they were refused entry.

Role on the full checks in October for everyone's safety.
 
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Thehooperman

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58535258

Looks like changed their minds then. Hopefully most who only got vaccinated to be able to gain entry to events will have already been double jabbed by now.

I've just read that. Absolutely bonkers!

Those sceptics who may have got jabbed just to get into a venue will now not bother and put others at risk.

Christmas lockdown 2 on the way.
 

BobClay

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Outback. Brick wall. .50 calibre machine gun.

(Yes yes I know, I'm repeating myself. But let anybody deny it's some kind of resolution. For those that oppose it on ethical, humanitarian, compassionate grounds ..... ..... outback, brick wall, .50 calibre machine gun.)

I am of course joking. For those that don't laugh .... outback, brick wall, .50 calibre machine gun.

:P
 

cj1

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I like Javid's comment about 'he had "never liked the idea of saying to people you must show your papers" to "do what is just an everyday activity"'.

I presume he will now be opposing the Elections bill going through the Commons which will require voters to show photo ID at polling stations.
Are you saying the lawful act of going to a nightclub is the same as the unlawful act of voting in somebody else's name aka voter fraud?
 

cj1

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Christmas? Do you think it’ll take that long?
Less than 2 months ago these figures were in double digits.
https://www.schoolcovidmap.org.uk/school/WP021441
If lockdowns happen this year than they are probably going to become an annual thing. If high population vaccination cannot prevent the needs for restrictions what will?
I'm hopeful our "irreversible" route out of lockdown/restrictions was just that as the alternative won't be good for anybody.
Rates have increased but these are overwhelmingly mild thankfully within this age group. Once infected immunity is very good some studies show even higher than those vaccinated so reinfection is unlikely.
 

Zylo

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Think something will happen, in the name of "ease pressure on the NHS again"

Everything is going to be worse in winter, flu everything.
 

rudie111

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Not sure we will see lockdown, but certain we will have enhanced restrictions. I would think, masks, work from home and reduced numbers for large events. But as ever these decisions will come too late
 

Zylo

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Also depends if a new "vairant" fast spreads and the vaccine isn't as effective.

let's hope not but a lot of things could go wrong.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
If lockdowns happen this year than they are probably going to become an annual thing. If high population vaccination cannot prevent the needs for restrictions what will?
Even higher vaccination rates? It's proven that those vaccinated are both less likely to catch and less likely to spread, so everyone unvaccinated is the same risk as several vaccinated. Reduce the risk, reduce the harm.

I'm hopeful our "irreversible" route out of lockdown/restrictions was just that as the alternative won't be good for anybody.
Rates have increased but these are overwhelmingly mild thankfully within this age group. Once infected immunity is very good some studies show even higher than those vaccinated so reinfection is unlikely.

Mild but still killing about 50 a day, so for something quite preventable now it doesn't feel that mild. Luckily it's mainly the spreaders that are dying, but they're still taking out a lot of old folk with them despite them trying to protect themselves.
 

tek-monkey

wanna see my snake?
Are you saying the lawful act of going to a nightclub is the same as the unlawful act of voting in somebody else's name aka voter fraud?

He's obviously commenting on the way the statement is worded, but voter fraud is so miniscule it's virtually irrelevant (it's quicker/cheaper/easier/legal to just tell idiots on FB to do something and make them think they're clever for doing it).
 

cj1

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Think something will happen, in the name of "ease pressure on the NHS again"

Everything is going to be worse in winter, flu everything.
Many employers are giving free flu vaccine this year if you can't get one for free off the nhs(i.e. under 50 and healthy). if you can't get one of the nhs or through an employer it costs a tenner to not feel like crap for a week could be money well spent.
 
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